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Theories On/Inspired By Supernatural 5.01

Sep 16, 2009 22:41

Yeah, yeah, late to the game, I know. I've had a long, hard week since I saw the season premier, but I thought it'd be best to get this in for the record before the next episode came out. So here you are, have a taste of my thoughts, sleepy and halfway-edited.

( Cut for speculation and entirely too many parenthesis. )

discussion, spn

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grimmalie September 17 2009, 15:58:54 UTC

I'm leaning toward the whole "Dean's lack of faith means he'd be a craptastic vessel" thing. So unless he magically starts developing faith, he's probably gonna do his own thing ( ... )

only_spiders September 17 2009, 21:43:43 UTC

You bring up a really good point with the demon blood. I keep having to remember that Ruby was manipulating him the whole time--hard for me, since I trusted Ruby for a long time, though I got suspicious near the end. But you're right, he wouldn't have wanted to mess with his powers for fear of going bad, and also because he'd promised Dean not to. Yet he couldn't just leave Dean there. Ruby's solution would have seemed like his only way out. In hindsight, he would have been easy to manipulate. :( :( Anyway, kudos to you for that one, I hadn't even thought of it.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on the YED, though, at least so far as his plan. First of all, Castiel straight up told Dean in In The Beginning that the angels don't know what YED's end-game was. And the angels did know about the plan to raise Lucifer. Which suggests to me--strongly suggests--that his plan was something different. Secondly, I just don't see how his actions line up with trying to raise Lucifer. Ruby and Lilith's plan, for example, was fairly ( ... )

only_spiders September 17 2009, 23:20:03 UTC

Aiya, I just re-read over that, and I did not get my point across, even to myself. :/ Let me rephrase: Part of the YED's plan was evidently to help raise Lucifer. The opening scenes of Lucifer Rising shows that much. Now that Lucifer is free, that part of his plan is fulfilled. But there's enough to make me think that there's still more that's gonna play out. For example, if all he wanted was someone who could kill Lilith, creating the special kids hardly seems like his only option. He could've maneuvered events so an angel did it, which I think a powerful enough angel would be capable of, and it's not as though they were trying to stop the seal-breaking anyway. But Lucifer requested specifically that he find a special child. And then there's Croatoan. And In The Beginning. Like I said, it could be nothing.

Also: I just did a little extra research, and it seems that in the lore Azazel is sometimes portrayed as a fallen angel. Is that why you were thinking that? Because it's clever. Azazel is also thought to have been the father of ( ... )