the mosque & the sign
anonymous
September 3 2010, 01:35:52 UTC
Again, the parallel is wrong.
the mosque: In any other legally zoned place no one should care. But the fact that they chose specifically this location is to me indicative of their intention - to stick a thumb into the infidel's eye. Therefore it is sensible to fight this mosque (or for the jaded lazy ones like myself at least to dislike it). The issue here should not be their "lack of sensitivity", but their intent. I suspect that it isn't that they don't care how people feel, but that they DO care and that is why they chose this location above all others.
the sign: I would have no problem with a Muslim enclave in NJ putting up such a sign and I don't have a problem with Kiras Joel putting up such a sign. Why would anyone that wants to visit this village be offended anyways? One would presume that a friendly visitor never wants to offend the aborigines and would be happy to be informed about their peculiar sensitivities. Would it even ever enter your mind to be offended should such a sign be in fact put up by a Muslim entity? An
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Re: the mosque & the signonionsoupmixSeptember 3 2010, 02:02:01 UTC
The mosque was there since before 9-11. It is crammed in and there is no space. They want to build a larger center, like a JCC.
The KJ sign could have been polite if they just left it at "we ask that you behave in a modest way." The details about covered necklines and gender separation are offensive. And yes, if I visited a country where I was told that I can't leave the house without a male chaperone, I would be offended. And that's another country all together. This here is public property, paid by American taxpayers. Whereas the mosque, if you really want to make distinctions, is on private land.
Re: the mosque & the sign
anonymous
September 6 2010, 09:32:31 UTC
Well, our onion soup sovok lays another egg.
I think you would fit in perfectly in Moldova or Belarus where people still need to go to shul to eat, and where the rabbonim don't care that they spit in the soup they are given.
Re: the mosque & the signonionsoupmixSeptember 6 2010, 14:09:46 UTC
Why go all the way to Moldova or Belarus? Let's start with America, shall we? I am certain that no one who takes welfare, medicaid, section 8 or foodstamps has anything bad to say about the American government which kindly provides food and shelter for these people.
the mosque: In any other legally zoned place no one should care. But the fact that they chose specifically this location is to me indicative of their intention - to stick a thumb into the infidel's eye. Therefore it is sensible to fight this mosque (or for the jaded lazy ones like myself at least to dislike it). The issue here should not be their "lack of sensitivity", but their intent. I suspect that it isn't that they don't care how people feel, but that they DO care and that is why they chose this location above all others.
the sign: I would have no problem with a Muslim enclave in NJ putting up such a sign and I don't have a problem with Kiras Joel putting up such a sign. Why would anyone that wants to visit this village be offended anyways? One would presume that a friendly visitor never wants to offend the aborigines and would be happy to be informed about their peculiar sensitivities. Would it even ever enter your mind to be offended should such a sign be in fact put up by a Muslim entity? An ( ... )
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The KJ sign could have been polite if they just left it at "we ask that you behave in a modest way." The details about covered necklines and gender separation are offensive. And yes, if I visited a country where I was told that I can't leave the house without a male chaperone, I would be offended. And that's another country all together. This here is public property, paid by American taxpayers. Whereas the mosque, if you really want to make distinctions, is on private land.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20015448-504083.html
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http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/08/31/welcome-to-kiryas-joel-please-dress-accordingly/
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I think you would fit in perfectly in Moldova or Belarus where people still need to go to shul to eat, and where the rabbonim don't care that they spit in the soup they are given.
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