У кого 14 пенсов в минуту, а у кого £1,8 млрд за ночь

Nov 27, 2017 05:05



Отличная новость. Для некоторых. Избранных. Их круги сужаются. Порадуемся за них. Но не сметь завидовать. Они заслужили, потому что владеют средствами производства. Это вам не мешки таскать.


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matrixmann November 27 2017, 13:22:17 UTC
Yes, strikes at the logistic centers of them happen here every now and then.
Core point that becomes public about it is the major dispute about the workers getting paid at the height of wages common for the retail industry instead of logistics.
But one can guess it's also a little more than that.

Problem I may see in that is - Amazon's business is practically a hybrid between those two sectors and German laws just don't have an answer to that.
Simply expressed: They don't have a way to treat a hybrid of these.
Or, in general, it's so much reduced down to classical business forms and absolutely not adapted to new forms the internet and the technological adavance over time made possible. (Wouldn't be the first time...)
According to those definitions, it is fully right before law to regard Amazon's business as mainly logistic work and pay wages according to that.
If you want a different view, go find a judge who says so, but nobody's gonna do that because that is also going to change the conditions for all other firms which maintain a commerce form like that.

Other than that, it questions in me if it truly erases all the other annoyances of the work life at such employers...

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onb2017 November 27 2017, 14:21:52 UTC
It doesn't really matter, at this point it is still physical work of packaging goods and working at the conveyor and don't people deserve to be paid and treated like human beings. I read about some tech companies and how they treat employees it is a efferent level of abuse. Kind of mental. They don't allow them making jokes. Make them go to the meeting and praise themselves like "we are so great." Buy some expensive coffee for a break room but underpay salaries, like as if they want to f with you.

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matrixmann November 27 2017, 17:45:14 UTC
Wouldn't make me wonder... If it comes to their "ethics", which often also surf upon the wave of political correctness as Identity Politics define it, they're also each a dogmatic facility. Say anything against that and you can hear Mr. Trumps favorite sentence ("You're fired!"). Just like that.
Perhaps someone already said it that way too: They also do that shit of giving "chances" to people from minority groups for higher positions in order to present themselves as a socially progressive entity, all the while to distract from the fact that they're each pretty capitalist shacks. Be it whether how they treat their employees, that it shows in that, or how they treat those many people in China that construct their cell phones every day or dig out the resources used for them somewhere in Africa. Simply said: It's something to distract the mind at home, maybe also a means to even get themself into believing that what they do is wonderful as their advertising campaigns say.

Er, what I still wanted to say for the logistics issue: It's not only that branch which Amazon covers; I think I also once wrote an entry pointing at it - just look what kind of unthankful job it is today when you're a delivery guy. When you work for a postal service, deliver parcels and such.
Has taken the same way. Work? You can do a lot of that... But payment is scarce. And all of the services which hire or employ anyone for such jobs seem to think the same, that it's okay and justified to treat their delivery people that way.
Doesn't matter how expensive they are or how often during the year they reason a price hike because of their own rise in costs.
Strangely, these days you've got way lot more wares distributed via postal service because of the existence of online shops, but on the other hand the service in former times was way better and cheaper. Each and every privatization of a state postal service hasn't brought anything in the end, it only made the services more expensive, but the people who do them are overworked and can't serve you like they actually should. What kind of hoax is this?
The only advantage it ever brought to anyone was the possibility for the Wasserkopf in the highest offices of the enterprise to earn a pretty penny and their wages growing each year. That's the only position it ever brought anything for and which every price hike makes anything in profit for.
Don't think anybody ever develops the intention to help these people, if they can't already help themselves because a whole economical sector ticks this way...

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onb2017 November 27 2017, 20:07:32 UTC
Yeah, they hire ethnic minorities who also happen to be rich. Like some Indians type of the lady that is the Executive of Coca-Cola or Pepsico, one or the other don't remember off hand, the same difference anyways, both a-holes. Anyways, yeah, it looks like oh, we embrace different minorities but only if they are rich.

I think services are the worst, because they don't have contracts and can be fired any time. And low pay.

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matrixmann November 27 2017, 20:42:10 UTC
Hm, it doesn't have anything to do with "being already rich" in that point.
What the firms want to achieve is "look, somebody from a group of people which ARE usually underprivileged can also become someone here at ours!". You know, putting emphasis on that point with a hammer (!) that some certain groups of people are underprivileged because of their gender, their ethnicity or whatever the heck, and at the same time they're (the tech firms with a "progressive" employee policy) the messiah everyone longs for in giving these peaple "a chance" that others don't give them.
Saying, it's all about presenting oneself in a shining light. Like another advertising campaign.
But in the reality, they only hand out a few chances to people which their stupid bosses think are "underprivileged" because of body features, but in fact they mostly don't belong to the underprivileged because they come from a wealthy background.
Argh, it's a bit hard to explain... Tell some snobbish people which have went to a US university (maybe even elite university) that the greatest source in the world for being underprivileged is poverty and not your skin color or your Arabian origin which quickly gets associated with being a terrorist in the US because of the agenda of the Bush-era.
These idiots won't believe you. They don't notice that they already walk along a few of these people on their path and by that the thesis of "none of them can make it" is already invalid. Only thing why it's so very few of them is: Because it's been less of a time that black people (e. g.) had been able to acquire wealth, so they can send their kids to university, than white people had been able to exploit the blacks.
That's so much differentiated knowledge, they're just too stupid and too uneducated about the world to get it... And Identity Politics already gave them too much of a brainwashing.

And, seriously, because the general policy never changes in these enterprises, no matter who's the CEO, if it's a person from a minority group or an average heterosexual white dude, I keep wondering what people from the US make such a fuzz about. A woman is the boss? Strange, they all behave like capitalists and kick their employees in the butt if they're in the mood. Sweatshops in Asia still exist. Costs still get minimized on the back of the workers at the bottom of the production chain. What's the deal with somebody from a social minority group being the highest boss?
...Lulling, that's the deal.

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