Two points I want to amke. One, why assume that people in Japan know about this? We all know because we're on omona and these kinds of articles are often posted here. The more appropriate argument to make would be that maybe people should stop posting them here if they contain no new info.
Two, I think I recall some idols who only sold out after moving to a smaller venue but I could be wrong. Regardless, some of these idols should theoretically be able to support larger venues than they currently do.
hang on - i misread something in your comment and thought you were talking about yuukitohira's first comment. i didn't realize you were making two comments about her comments in reverse order. sorry for the miscommunication.
The first point may be true, but this isn't the first, second, or even third article from a Japanese source about the contract situation, just looking at the ones since the Kara situation started. While, yes, I do know that a lot of the Japanese fans had no clue about this whole situation(which, tbh, I find a little weird but not completely impossible) the info has been out there to them for a while now
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I'm confused. Are you arguing that more than one publication cannot write about the same topic? Do you know how many publications exist or could possibly exist in Japan? Ever consider that these publications could have markedly different audiences? That a reporter could talk to a different source and have a different perspective, whether this article does or does not? I'm sorry the articles are airing kpop's dirty laundry to the Land of the Rising Bank Account for idols, but I think its a little silly to ask people to stop writing about it.
Your second argument is a bit circular. Yeah, possibly they can't afford to put idols in bigger venues . . . because no one pays for anything, including concert tickets. Encores don't mean that much to me because show me that it wasn't the same die hard fans showing up again. My point was really that some of the more popular groups in Korea can't play in a venue much larger than 12k for one night is kind of ridiculous.
I'm not saying that they can't, but I'm hoping you do realize the whole big issue about 'slave contracts', hell even the term 'slave contract', was caused by the media, right? By continuing to report on it, they're just making the whole mess bigger than it already is. And if we specifically look at DBSK's situation, considering that their case is left in the hands of the court, there's no reason to let it grow into a bigger mess because the media no longer has an effect. But obviously that's not the case.
And I'm confused as to you saying that no one pays for concert tickets? And honestly, who's to say if it's the same die hard fans showing up again or the people who couldn't get tickets because of the die hard fans in the first place? I think you're assuming a bit there, but as there's no way to prove who actually is there or not, I can't really argue with you. And just curious, which groups are you referring to?
ah well, sometimes artists do tend to start out in smaller venues and work their ways up. like dbsk in japan; they didn't start out in the tokyo dome simply because they didn't have a strong enough fanbase. it also party depends on your company; mom and pop company isn't going to be able to dish out the same amount to rent the big mackdaddy stadiums as giants like jyp, yg and sme.
but as far as I can remember with idols and concerts or even musicals, I haven't really heard too much about them being unable to sell out their shows. who are some idols who have had problems with selling their shows out/had to move to a smaller venue? I'd actually really like to know because I am curious now o:
I don't know what most of your first paragraph has to do with anything (sounds rude but not intended--I can't think of another way to put it sorry), but wasn't there some news about 2pm doing that? And giving away tickets on the street?
ah i misunderstood what you wrote and thought you were talking about something else. lmfao. i am also distracted by the superbowl. u_u you're fine though.
um, idk i don't really follow 2pm so i can't confirm (was this maybe going on during the controversy over jay park?); it just surprises me that big name artists (even if they're solo) being unable to sell their tickets. if anything, i just read an article today where junsu was upset that scalpers were jacking his ticket prices up to the thousands of dollars because of the high demand for them.
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Two, I think I recall some idols who only sold out after moving to a smaller venue but I could be wrong. Regardless, some of these idols should theoretically be able to support larger venues than they currently do.
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Your second argument is a bit circular. Yeah, possibly they can't afford to put idols in bigger venues . . . because no one pays for anything, including concert tickets. Encores don't mean that much to me because show me that it wasn't the same die hard fans showing up again. My point was really that some of the more popular groups in Korea can't play in a venue much larger than 12k for one night is kind of ridiculous.
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And I'm confused as to you saying that no one pays for concert tickets? And honestly, who's to say if it's the same die hard fans showing up again or the people who couldn't get tickets because of the die hard fans in the first place? I think you're assuming a bit there, but as there's no way to prove who actually is there or not, I can't really argue with you. And just curious, which groups are you referring to?
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but as far as I can remember with idols and concerts or even musicals, I haven't really heard too much about them being unable to sell out their shows. who are some idols who have had problems with selling their shows out/had to move to a smaller venue? I'd actually really like to know because I am curious now o:
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um, idk i don't really follow 2pm so i can't confirm (was this maybe going on during the controversy over jay park?); it just surprises me that big name artists (even if they're solo) being unable to sell their tickets. if anything, i just read an article today where junsu was upset that scalpers were jacking his ticket prices up to the thousands of dollars because of the high demand for them.
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