Yes but they were ALL established artists already. esp Suju and DBSK. and yeah JYJ took a huge risk but thats cause they had a really shit time back in SME esp since back then during their early days SME was a v diff company. secondly, jyj wanted artistic freedom. just what artistic freedom does kris need at this point? he has no artistic talent. i love him but...no. thirdly JYJ have an established, devoted and large fanbase that even if they left they would be fine. plus jae sings, xiah does musicals and yoochun is in dramas. so like its not comparable at all. its the same how suju members were able to threaten SME knowing they are important to the company enough that SME would be willing to negotiate. How does kris have that leverage at this point? furthermore kris cant dance, isnt a great singer, not even that good at rapping and has no acting experience to speak of. to top that off with the huge problem of breaking contracts with SME...like, why? why bother? also in china the most popular entertainers are tv hosts, musicians/singers and idols. kris can be an idol in china via SME and he can do acting in china via them as well and he's more likely to get work as a member of Exo M than otherwise. Hangeng was able to break off from SME because of the foothold suju and suju m gave him in the chinese industry first. I mean I like Kris alot but aside from his leadership of Exo M and his good looks and personality, what does he have? (can he even host anything?) that he can just leave and think he'll do fine? why suffer as a trainee with SME for so many years and endure all that shit he got as a chinese trainee and make friends and etc just to leave barely a year after debut? Yes he could be unhappy atm with his company but what idol hasnt been through that at least once? most of them dont leave.
just what artistic freedom does kris need at this point?
I did not say artistic freedom. I said personal freedom. Take from that what you want.
kris have that leverage at this point?
He is the leader and face of SME's new star boygroup - he has incredible leverage being in that position. You seem to underestimate the significance of EXO to SME.
furthermore kris cant dance, isnt a great singer, not even that good at rapping and has no acting experience to speak of.
This could easily describe a plethora of idols, actors and tv hosts in Japan, South Korea, China and America. He is however considered to be incredibly handsome. Moreover, when has the absence of talent prevented anyone? Siwon seems pretty content eye-brow acting.
huge problem of breaking contracts with SME...like, why?
It's not hard to break contract with SME, so long as you are willing to pay the debt and don't sue SME as JYJ/Han Geng did. However, many idols are content to remain with their company so long as they get their concessions. JYJ demanded multiple concessions from SME - and their contract was altered to reflect their demands because of their importance to SME. However, they then decided that the gains were greater as an act independent of SME and left.
why suffer as a trainee with SME for so many years and endure all that shit he got as a chinese trainee
When you have suffered that long, disappointed your parents, and the result is a so-so debut by your idol group - and even more so-so debut by your sub-group, would you not leave in the hope of greater things?
We can sit here and ask rhetorical questions all day.
and make friends and etc
He made a friend - friends is an over optimistic statement of what relations are like in EXO.
Yes he could be unhappy atm with his company but what idol hasnt been through that at least once? most of them dont leave.
But some of them do leave and given that Han Geng, JYJ, SS501 and T-ARA have all happened this should not seem too surprising.
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I did not say artistic freedom. I said personal freedom. Take from that what you want.
kris have that leverage at this point?
He is the leader and face of SME's new star boygroup - he has incredible leverage being in that position. You seem to underestimate the significance of EXO to SME.
furthermore kris cant dance, isnt a great singer, not even that good at rapping and has no acting experience to speak of.
This could easily describe a plethora of idols, actors and tv hosts in Japan, South Korea, China and America. He is however considered to be incredibly handsome. Moreover, when has the absence of talent prevented anyone? Siwon seems pretty content eye-brow acting.
huge problem of breaking contracts with SME...like, why?
It's not hard to break contract with SME, so long as you are willing to pay the debt and don't sue SME as JYJ/Han Geng did. However, many idols are content to remain with their company so long as they get their concessions. JYJ demanded multiple concessions from SME - and their contract was altered to reflect their demands because of their importance to SME. However, they then decided that the gains were greater as an act independent of SME and left.
why suffer as a trainee with SME for so many years and endure all that shit he got as a chinese trainee
When you have suffered that long, disappointed your parents, and the result is a so-so debut by your idol group - and even more so-so debut by your sub-group, would you not leave in the hope of greater things?
We can sit here and ask rhetorical questions all day.
and make friends and etc
He made a friend - friends is an over optimistic statement of what relations are like in EXO.
Yes he could be unhappy atm with his company but what idol hasnt been through that at least once? most of them dont leave.
But some of them do leave and given that Han Geng, JYJ, SS501 and T-ARA have all happened this should not seem too surprising.
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May I ask...who? I thought he was genuine friends with at least Luhan and Lay.
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