Say Nothing is now streaming on Hulu

Nov 15, 2024 07:54

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Based on the best selling book by Patrick Radden Keefe, Say Nothing is an FX limited series of murder and memory in Northern Ireland during The Troubles. The book's title is taken from the poem "Whatever You Say, Say Nothing" by Irish Nobel laureate Seamus Heaney. All nine episodes are now streaming on Hulu.

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allons_y42 November 15 2024, 17:15:27 UTC
I'm listening to the Say Nothing audiobook right now and it is top tier excellent! The narrator is great but the story is so incredibly written-- it's all so complicated with the different factions and motivations and shifting political sands but still a cracking great read.

Anthony Boyle looks perfect for Brendan Hughes. lord, he's hot

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floatinglately November 15 2024, 17:27:45 UTC
i read the book by coincidence a few weeks ago just because i had liked the author’s book about the sackler family, empire of pain*, and it was so good…. i honestly have conflicted feelings about how entertaining the series looks given how heavy the subject matter is but will probably watch anyway at some point lol

*empire of pain is strongly recommended but it WILL give you a rage stroke. also one of those books that makes you feel like succession was a documentary… the parts about the youngest failson/faildaughter generations coming in and trying to operate in a company where they don’t know what they’re doing and everyone fucking hates them feel like they were straight of of jesse armstrong’s drafts

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allons_y42 November 15 2024, 17:37:57 UTC
based on the second clip/behind the scenes trailer posted above, it looks like they aren't exactly shying away from all of the trauma and impact of the violence. I'm at the part of the book where everyone's turning on Gerry Adams for selling out the movement for peace and political power. super fascinating "is this what we killed for?" etc.

I'm going to have to save the Sackler book for a time when I have less rage running through me but thank you for the recommendation!

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floatinglately November 15 2024, 20:13:43 UTC
ahh yeah that whole question of what do you do when you have to accept that the thing you decided was worth killing for never happens, or what happens to revolutionary violence in a revolution that was over something (imo) worth fighting for but then never comes, was SO interesting to sot with philosophically and psychologically… just a really deep, layered question. and the gerry adams stuff is wild, PRK is very disciplined in that “trained in the new yorker” way about keeping himself out of it and i think he’s also a pretty genuinely nuanced thinker who tries to understand where everyone is coming from but you do get the sense he has at least a raised eyebrow for adams’s “i was never in the IRA :)” shtick, and some real admiration for the integrity if not always the actions of the members who are willing to own their actions. like i finished the book and was like “i do get where adams is coming from but if i were brendan hughes i would have blown his house up while he slept” lmao

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allons_y42 November 15 2024, 21:07:35 UTC
PRK really does a great job giving context to everyone-- the stickies, the provos, the moderate Irish, even the unionists. I agree the only time he's arch at all is with Adams who absolutely deserves the skeptism and then some. The shit with him encouraging the hunger strikers to keep going even with the inside information from the gov't was some diabolical shit.

The gut punch for me for Brendan Hughes is still having the pic of him and Gerry in his flat, despite everything that happened. it's part nostalgia, part remembrance and part bitch eating crackers-- how dare you deny us. A revolutionary leader who wasn't the one doing the dirty work decided to disown it all for politics, leaving everyone who actually had skin in the game and dead body counts out to dry with no measurable result that made it worth it.

If I were Brendan Hughes or Dolours Price woulda lit that fuse and gotten a pint after!

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jojito November 15 2024, 18:20:10 UTC
Adding both to my reading list ❤️

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