South Korea's 4B movement going viral after Trump’s win

[goshipgurl]

‘No man will touch me until I have my rights back’: why is the 4B movement going viral after Trump’s win? https://t.co/II8St8H9w6
- The Guardian (@guardian) November 7, 2024

• The 4B movement is going viral on social media after Trump's win this week, with many girls and women encouraging each other to avoid dating and physical contact with men as

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[epicdonald]

Yeah I definitely wondered if it was a me problem for a few years until my women friends & i started talking to each other about it and I realized how common it was. Even recently I went down a google rabbit hole about whether ED and issues orgasming were on the rise in younger men and the info I found made it sound like it's virtually unheard of in men under 50, so i think it's underreported or the statistics are way behind.

the guy i just broke up with also frustrated me because he was unable to and had no interest in having conversations about anything that didn't directly involve him, so i couldn't even go to him when i had something i needed to talk about re: work, family, my other friends, etc. and we spent a lot of time sitting in silence. plus he didn't know how to do most basic adult tasks & expected me to explain them all to him. so once i was very sure i had no interest in having sex with him i realized i was getting literally nothing out of this relationship that i couldn't get out of my existing friendships and i ended it

sadly yep most of my friends view a relationship with a man as endgame though. my approach now is like, i'm open to dating if i can keep it fun & will pursue something deeper i meet someone promising but i'm not making it a priority. really the most frustrating thing is when a friend is dating a guy who's red flag city and i tell her that but she pursues it anyway because women are conditioned to think a crappy relationship is better than being single.

[blazingeternity]

Ugh, your last relationship sounds exhausting, and I'm glad for you that you realized you weren't getting anything of value from it and left! I couldn't date anyone who is not available to me unless it involves him. My partner has to be a friend (without actually replacing my friends), and the older I got, the more I realized that 'partner' is actually exactly what I'm looking for and what I need. I'm independent and my own person and I need someone who is too, and who complements me on eye level and vice versa. Someone you can talk to and ask for advice about anything, and who's got your back, without sucking out your whole personality to turn you into an extension of themself.

Yes, I want a relationship, but having one just for the sake of it as many women are conditioned to crave, is so so sad to me. While love shouldn't necessarily be about asking yourself what you can get out of it, it definitely shouldn't be about asking yourself what you can sacrifice for someone else's maximum gain. And mothering a man child falls under the latter :/