Liam Payne had multiple substances in his system when he died

Oct 21, 2024 22:17

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Argentinian authorities released toxicology results from a partial autopsy

At the time of his death pink cocaine, ketamine, ecstasy, and methamphetamine were in his system

drugs / alcohol, one direction, death

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loverdestroyed October 21 2024, 21:21:15 UTC
we'll likely never know what his final moments were like, but it's sad and scary to think of someone possibly being so out of their mind on drugs that they have no idea what they're doing, and falling/jumping because of it. i saw that the initial autopsy suggested he may not have been fully conscious when he fell

i still don't understand why they sent him to his room if they were so worried about him jumping from the balcony, but there are still so many unconfirmed details that it's hard to say i guess

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goshipgurl October 21 2024, 22:39:51 UTC

Re: your last paragraph, same. I wonder why hotel security didn't stay with him in the lobby or his room until police had arrived. They obviously were worried about him harming himself so I don't understand why they sent him back up alone... Or refused to stay by his side.

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loverdestroyed October 21 2024, 22:44:34 UTC
yeah that's the part that I'm stuck on. i get if they didn't want him in the lobby bc he was causing a scene and maybe scaring people, but surely there was somewhere else they could take him? or like you said, have him be supervised in his room. like I'm not pointing fingers, especially since we don't have all the details, but I'm just confused on how anyone thought that would be a good idea. for the receptionist to blatantly say 'his room has a balcony and we're worried he'll hurt himself' to him literally doing that within minutes.... idk. maybe it'll turn out he went up on his own.

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cosmic_starz October 21 2024, 23:22:15 UTC

It seems very irresponsible, that's for sure. They should have at least put him in a room without a balcony, but ideally the paramedics should have been called while he was safely detained in the meantime.

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loverdestroyed October 21 2024, 23:30:44 UTC
Yeah I agree. Idk if hotels have protocol for things like this, but either way it's sad to think that maybe things could've turned out differently.

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two_haiku October 22 2024, 00:49:45 UTC
I kind of disagree. People in hospitality deal with all sorts of potentially abusive people. If I heard there was an aggressive man on drugs in the hotel I wouldn’t willingly put myself in close proximity to him because that’s probably not in my job description. I think waiting for the police was the best move, although it sadly ended with tragedy. I’ve heard that hotel security in the US is very different than abroad.

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heyitsrocky91 October 22 2024, 01:03:32 UTC
Yes, when my sister went on her violent bender, she hit a poor hotel staff member. Like while clearly she was out of her mind, I also want hotel staff members to be safe too.

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anna_bea2 October 22 2024, 02:02:04 UTC

yeah, I'm not about to villify or blame hotel staff for not taking care of a possibly aggressive guy who was under the influence.

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cosmic_starz October 22 2024, 07:12:26 UTC

They didn't need to baby sit, but it was hugely irresponsible and odd that they put someone who was convulsing back into their room that had access to a balcony.. in the 911 call the hotel staff person who called said they were worried about him because he had access to that balcony.. would have made sense to prevent the worry by moving him into a floor room.

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two_haiku October 22 2024, 08:37:35 UTC
Either way, for anyone’s future reference people should be under the assumption that hospitality workers are going to be administering medical care if you have a heart attack or mental health crisis services when those arise. When nurses go out in public they arent rescuing aggressive/intoxicated people on the side of the road because that’s how you lose your license. They’re just there to run the hotel and the security is there to protect property. Whether or not they should be criticized for this is something up to the individual I guess.

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loverdestroyed October 22 2024, 17:58:31 UTC
I think the only thing I would question is whether or not he was showing signs of a medical emergency (fainting/convulsing) and if the hotel had any written protocol on how to handle those situations. Idk much about hospitality to be frank, so maybe everything they did was in line and I'm wrong.

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toddies October 22 2024, 02:19:01 UTC
he was terrorizing people in the lobby so I think the hotel staff was just trying to get him secured until police arrived to keep him from hurting any guests. he smashed up his laptop, "jokingly" choked one of the girls he was with, fell flat on his face, was acting belligerent/yelling, it's easy to imagine he could've harmed someone. if I were one of the staff I def wouldn't be willing to babysit him 3 stories up. it sounds like his friend/handler/whatever (?) escorted him back to his room so idk if he was alone? grim all around tbh.

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loverdestroyed October 22 2024, 17:52:20 UTC
no yeah I get it, I'm not blaming them for not wanting to endanger themselves around an unstable, belligerent man, nor should the staff be expected to babysit him in his room. i guess it's just a shame that he couldn't have been taken somewhere where he wouldn't be a risk to anyone or to himself, but alas

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