Clip: Elvira (Cassandra Peterson) dishes on one of her worst celebrity experiences:
Ariana Grande
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October 19, 2024At Knott's Berry Scary Farm for a special Halloween experience/Q&A, Cassandra "Elvira" Peterson was asked about celebrity encounters with a crowd member then
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I feel like the Manchester tragedy really gave some longtime sympathy-passes or something cause prior to that she really was getting criticized a lot but that tragedy happened and people backed off. But I think a lot of it has to do with:
a.) She's already established in place in the pop genre/music industry, so things like this won't effect her career.
b.) She's very lowkey-ish and off the grid when not promoting something. She's not Taylor who's everywhere all the time.
Even her social media presence has greatly reduced cause I remember when she use communicate more on twitter and IG and now it's strictly promoting stuff and little photo dumps...granted smart move; but also the major celebs do this now cause similar I remember Zendaya use drop pics more frequently but she stopped the minute she made it made it.
But I feel like Ariana gets away with this cause she's never completely hidden her personality even though she'll deny she's a homewrecker/cheater to your face if asked lol. But for the same, her fans and casual listeners like me already know how she is so it's like "yeah she's a rude brat, but bops so...thank you next♡".
And I'm guilty of this cause usually I don't tolerate cheating and can be very critical/uppity about it but with Ariana I was like "yeah she's not a girl's girl and is trash but OMG YASSSS I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR WHAT CHEATING BOP SHE'S GONNA MAKE AS A RESULT!!👀👀👀👀👀". Lol you can honestly go back into those posts and see me making a comment like that 🙈 🙈!!
Idk Ariana is an interesting case where everyone just accepts who she is but I wonder if she were to this with an equally famous (better-looking bf) celeb would she survive it? Part of me is already seeing her taking a hit but surviving simply because me and everyone would S A L I V A T I N G at all the fire drama and gossip that would come as a result. Maybe that's why she survives cause she gives us stuff to do.🤔
*"Idk Ariana is an interesting case where everyone just accepts who she is"
Answering and coming to my own conclusion....it's probably that similar vibe to Rihanna and why she's gets away with things too. They know they're baddies and that attitude is admirable to some people therefore they're excused~ and exempted from a true public dragging.
Ariana knows she's that spoiled rich bitch and while she'll publicly deny it, she doesn't deny it in attitude and presentation. People like that arrogant attitude of hers, that's why she fine (in addition to bops).
Funny enough someone like Taylor could never do the same and has to make up or retcon narratives to save her image before her fans start looking at the timeline lol.
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Yeah, I am friends with a lot of Ariana stans irl (including my own sisters… sigh! So I’ve heard all the Arianator excuses!!!! 😭😭😭) and like, idk, there’s definitely a personality type associated with stans of each artist. for example not all Swifties but a lot are white girls who love playing the victim and are prone to saying borderline racist things so I have to proceed with caution lol, while I find Arianators usually more chill and bearable until the topic of Ariana comes up and then all the excuses start! I think the fact that she is openly terrible and doesn’t hide it is exactly why she gets away with it. If you’re someone who presents yourself as the wholesome girl next door any little scandal can take you down, but if you present yourself as a baddie people just kind of accept it as part of your image. Whenever someone on ONTD complains about such and such artist getting backlash for something and such and such artist not getting backlash for the same thing, I kinda have to roll my eyes because it always, always comes down to how you present yourself and what audience you cultivate as a result. Re: Ariana if you cultivate an audience of people who are living vicariously (sometimes ironically, sometimes seriously) through you being spoiled and rich and doing whatever you want and always getting away with it, it’s obvious why she’s getting away with so much. And yes, unlike Taylor, she’s much better at lying low to avoid overexposure. She’ll probs go back into hiding after this press tour.
Since we mentioned Taylor, I kind of feel like she did want to move away from the girl next door image and she understands this trap I mentioned above. Which is why she went all in on Matty and now she’s kind of dressing like an Instagram baddie. But it’s a little late because she already has that massive audience who was attracted to that girl next door image. As annoying as she is, I do feel a little bad that she’s trapped in a marketing decision her team probably made for her when she was a teenager, though at the same time, she’s profited massively off it and she is a grown adult who could walk away from it at any time as hard as it is so it’s not something to lose sleep over.
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Imagine on Jimmy Fallon is one of my fave performances from her! Whistle registers @2:48!!
Truthfully I don't think I've come across too many arianators (I will her, Rihanna and Selena got the worst fanbase names) or find them annoying compared to Swifties and Barbz who are straight up deranged lol (although I saw some footage of the Barbz at her miami show and their aesthetic is nice I'll give them that). So I agree that they're pretty chill and bearable. Fandoms reflects their idol most of them time I feel.
". Whenever someone on ONTD complains about such and such artist getting backlash for something and such and such artist not getting backlash for the same thing, I kinda have to roll my eyes because it always, always comes down to how you present yourself and what audience you cultivate as a result."
I agree. You are what you put out there. Plus some celebs are more PR-savvy than others and get with a lot more as a result. Again the Ariana vs Taylor comparison....if not for Wicked we would not be Ariana at all except on her IG and even then she's not even talking just dropping pics or promoting her makeup brand/perfume. So she's gotta handle on fame whereas Taylor requires so much more...like the cup is never full enough for her! Which as much as a narcissist as she is no way that isn't causing her major mental issues cause none of that is remotely healthy!
I feel like Taylor was trying to move away from the girl-next-door image too during Rep cause the LWYMMD music video had her in the dominatrix outfit because I was like ":O OMG she's showing cleavage!!" but she didn't follow up with it I guess since that album didn't do as well as she wanted cause Lover and Folklore outfits was her usual safe looks/aesthetics.
I conflict when it comes to Taylor cause on hand I do think her parents did a number on her and def pushed her to succeed. I even look at weight as consequence of that cause she's always thin and toned while her family are all fat and untoned lol....like if she wasn't a huge pop star she'd most likely be as chubby as them!! So I do feel sorry for her in the sense that she's always had to maintain a certain image and look from a very young age.
On the other hand....Taylor is just as calculated and very involved in her image and was an active player in a lot of that decision-making. Taylor is also 34 going on to 35, she's not that 17-year old newbie anymore, she's a billionaire now who is capable of making those big-girl decisions and is clearly heavily involved when it comes to the boyfriends promo cycle. Taylor's biggest problem is that the cup is not full enough for her AND she's afraid of being replaced by the new girls....even thinking about it I feel like it probably bothers her that the new girls don't have to work as hard as she did to be successful.
Like everything with Taylor has to be a BIG EPIC WAVE when it comes to her albums whereas the other girls they don't need that. Billie is a 2x Oscar winner at 22, Olivia is already a Grammy winner, Sabrina and Chappell are already on their way to Grammy wins, Charli won the summer and is the current cool party girl with brat....Taylor's commercial success and achievements aren't threats or roadblocks for these girls (and future girls) no matter how many times she tries to block their #1s lol. And best part is none of them have to rely on heavily curated image to the degree Taylor heavily relied on hers and have already matured faster than Taylor's 16 year old safe girl-next-door-image. Taylor's issue is that lack of maturity in her presentation.
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The shocked pikachu reaction is sadly not a surprise lol. Maybe it could be a step toward growing up for some of her fans.
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