The Patton UN report did not confirm that there were rapes and that NYT article has been thoroughly debunked. It is absolutely racist to perpetuate lies that are used to dehumanize Palestinians and justify genocide.
buried on page 15 in its 23 page "report", the UN's Pramila Patten admits that all her information comes directly from the Israeli regime, and that it blocks UN agencies with an actual investigative mandate from doing independent investigations into their propaganda claims pic.twitter.com/5MhygkWLCg - ☀️👀 (@zei_squirrel) March 4, 2024
after admitting there's no evidence of rape in the videos and photos handed to them by the Israeli regime, she admits she has to rely solely on "positions of bodies and clothing", which she admits earlier Zaka hoaxers constantly moved around, and "testimonies" by the same hoaxers pic.twitter.com/2p5Xqbg5h8 - ☀️👀 (@zei_squirrel) March 4, 2024
now this conclusion, buried late in the piece, directly contradicts the entire "mass rape" atrocity propaganda hoax fabricated by the New York Times' Jeffrey Gettleman, Adam Sella and Anat Schwartz, with their claim of a "systematic Hamas policy of rape". No one is quoting it pic.twitter.com/SOFIyI3jg6 - ☀️👀 (@zei_squirrel) March 4, 2024
Based on the report "The independent UN Commission of Inquiry (CoI) subsequently published a legal and in-depth investigative report in June 2024 which concluded from “documented evidence” that there was a pattern indicative of sexual violence by Palestinian forces during the attack, that these incidents were not isolated, and that Hamas and other militant groups were responsible for gender-based violence "by willful killings, abductions, and physical, mental and sexual abuse."
Eta: the most I am willing to believe is that Hamas fighters did not have specific orders from above "to rape as many women as possible.." But to think that Harris is wrong in her "women were horribly raped" statement, or that Hamas leadership somehow discouraged sexual violence is unbelievable (and goes against evidence discussed.)
The Commission faced several challenges in its investigation. In relation to Gaza, the Commission’s ability to reach out to victims and witnesses was limited, due to the continuing fighting on the ground and major communications disruption. In relation to Israel, Israeli officials repeatedly publicly announced Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the Commission’s investigation. Israeli officials reportedly barred medical professionals and others from being in contact with the Commission after it approached medical professionals in Israel in December 2023.
The Commission has reviewed testimonies obtained by journalists and the Israeli police concerning rape but has not been able to independently verify such allegations, due to a lack of access to victims, witnesses and crime sites and the obstruction of its investigations by the Israeli authorities. The Commission was unable to review the unedited version of such testimonies. For the same reasons, the Commission was also unable to verify reports of sexualized torture and genital mutilation. Additionally, the Commission found some specific allegations to be false, inaccurate or contradictory with other evidence or statements and discounted these from its assessment.
Specific victim stories hmm?
the sister of a woman cited in the New York Times piece by Jeffrey Gettleman as evidence of "mass rapes" on October 7th has just come out and said "there is no proof that there was rape." Gettleman intentionally begins his piece with a graphic description of the mentioned video pic.twitter.com/an4owfYIZt - ☀️👀 (@zei_squirrel) January 2, 2024
There are many many other accounts in that article, and i can think of multiple reasons why a family may not want their dead daughter/sister becoming a poster child for "horribly raped and mutilated victim," some of which have nothing to do with what actually happened.
There is literally no other victim named in that article, nor has any victim or any credible witness come forward in any of the UN investigations.
Zaka is an absolute racist joke and their lies have been debunked in UN reports. If you find “One continues to rape her, and the other throws her breast to someone else, and they play with it, throw it, and it falls on the road,” Sapir said at all credible, I don't know what to tell you.
The sister of the alleged victim would not be able to comment on all other instances of rape discussed. The biased and misleading language used by zei_squirrel makes me view them as less likely to have access to and ability to analyze evidence than NY Times journalists.
Finally, as someone who witnessed sexual violence before, and someone who immigrated to US from what is now a war zone, i am have no problem believing any of the accounts in the article above.
Lol yes, let's check in on the NY Times journalists:
if I told you that the New York Times hired a recently graduated college student with only a couple prior articles written on the subject of food and cooking to be their lead on the ground "reporter" on the "mass rape" hoax they fabricated, would you believe it? That's Adam Sella pic.twitter.com/1YW8PmsOqE - ☀️👀 (@zei_squirrel) February 28, 2024
< Multiple NYT sources tell me that the paper is now cutting ties with Anat Schwarz after her social media history - “turn Gaza into a slaughterhouse” - was exposed. Her explosive article shaped public understanding of 10/7 yet the team at The Daily has still been unable to produce… https://t.co/9DSmbJWP2h - Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) February 26, 2024
I don't expect you to admit you are wrong but sharing the below thread for other commentators to show how credible the "witnesses" in the article are:
While much of the NYT "mass Hamas rape" report relies on innuendo, it also purports to contain several credible eyewitness testimonies. One was delivered by a survivor of the Nova electronic music festival named Raz Cohen, who also happens to be an Israeli special forces vet who… https://t.co/VKuD485p6M - Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) December 29, 2023
It gets worse. The NY Times' supposed paramedic witness, "G," was previously interviewed by the right-wing Republic TV of India. In that appearance, he described in a distinctive Brooklyn accent how his "teammate" found "a baby, perhaps not even more than a year old, with… pic.twitter.com/qZGfCRWakd - Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) December 29, 2023
I am sure some people on twitter think NY Times article, that NY Times stands by is a massive conspiracy. These types of tweets are dime a dozen for any topic these days.
buried on page 15 in its 23 page "report", the UN's Pramila Patten admits that all her information comes directly from the Israeli regime, and that it blocks UN agencies with an actual investigative mandate from doing independent investigations into their propaganda claims pic.twitter.com/5MhygkWLCg
- ☀️👀 (@zei_squirrel) March 4, 2024
after admitting there's no evidence of rape in the videos and photos handed to them by the Israeli regime, she admits she has to rely solely on "positions of bodies and clothing", which she admits earlier Zaka hoaxers constantly moved around, and "testimonies" by the same hoaxers pic.twitter.com/2p5Xqbg5h8
- ☀️👀 (@zei_squirrel) March 4, 2024
now this conclusion, buried late in the piece, directly contradicts the entire "mass rape" atrocity propaganda hoax fabricated by the New York Times' Jeffrey Gettleman, Adam Sella and Anat Schwartz, with their claim of a "systematic Hamas policy of rape". No one is quoting it pic.twitter.com/SOFIyI3jg6
- ☀️👀 (@zei_squirrel) March 4, 2024
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Based on the report "The independent UN Commission of Inquiry (CoI) subsequently published a legal and in-depth investigative report in June 2024 which concluded from “documented evidence” that there was a pattern indicative of sexual violence by Palestinian forces during the attack, that these incidents were not isolated, and that Hamas and other militant groups were responsible for gender-based violence "by willful killings, abductions, and physical, mental and sexual abuse."
Also a NY Times article that discusses specific victims' stories: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/world/middleeast/oct-7-attacks-hamas-israel-sexual-violence.html?unlocked_article_code=1.R04.7rZ9.726e4oxuKDBC&smid=url-share
Eta: the most I am willing to believe is that Hamas fighters did not have specific orders from above "to rape as many women as possible.." But to think that Harris is wrong in her "women were horribly raped" statement, or that Hamas leadership somehow discouraged sexual violence is unbelievable (and goes against evidence discussed.)
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The Commission faced several challenges in its investigation. In relation to Gaza, the Commission’s ability to reach out to victims and witnesses was limited, due to the continuing fighting on the ground and major communications disruption. In relation to Israel, Israeli officials repeatedly publicly announced Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the Commission’s investigation. Israeli officials reportedly barred medical professionals and others from being in contact with the Commission after it approached medical professionals in Israel in December 2023.
The Commission has reviewed testimonies obtained by journalists and the Israeli police concerning rape but has not been able to independently verify such allegations, due to a lack of access to victims, witnesses and crime sites and the obstruction of its investigations by the Israeli authorities. The Commission was unable to review the unedited version of such testimonies. For the same reasons, the Commission was also unable to verify reports of sexualized torture and genital mutilation. Additionally, the Commission found some specific allegations to be false, inaccurate or contradictory with other evidence or statements and discounted these from its assessment.
Specific victim stories hmm?
the sister of a woman cited in the New York Times piece by Jeffrey Gettleman as evidence of "mass rapes" on October 7th has just come out and said "there is no proof that there was rape." Gettleman intentionally begins his piece with a graphic description of the mentioned video pic.twitter.com/an4owfYIZt
- ☀️👀 (@zei_squirrel) January 2, 2024
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Zaka is an absolute racist joke and their lies have been debunked in UN reports. If you find “One continues to rape her, and the other throws her breast to someone else, and they play with it, throw it, and it falls on the road,” Sapir said at all credible, I don't know what to tell you.
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Finally, as someone who witnessed sexual violence before, and someone who immigrated to US from what is now a war zone, i am have no problem believing any of the accounts in the article above.
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if I told you that the New York Times hired a recently graduated college student with only a couple prior articles written on the subject of food and cooking to be their lead on the ground "reporter" on the "mass rape" hoax they fabricated, would you believe it? That's Adam Sella pic.twitter.com/1YW8PmsOqE
- ☀️👀 (@zei_squirrel) February 28, 2024
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Multiple NYT sources tell me that the paper is now cutting ties with Anat Schwarz after her social media history - “turn Gaza into a slaughterhouse” - was exposed. Her explosive article shaped public understanding of 10/7 yet the team at The Daily has still been unable to produce… https://t.co/9DSmbJWP2h
- Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) February 26, 2024
I don't expect you to admit you are wrong but sharing the below thread for other commentators to show how credible the "witnesses" in the article are:
While much of the NYT "mass Hamas rape" report relies on innuendo, it also purports to contain several credible eyewitness testimonies. One was delivered by a survivor of the Nova electronic music festival named Raz Cohen, who also happens to be an Israeli special forces vet who… https://t.co/VKuD485p6M
- Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) December 29, 2023
It gets worse. The NY Times' supposed paramedic witness, "G," was previously interviewed by the right-wing Republic TV of India. In that appearance, he described in a distinctive Brooklyn accent how his "teammate" found "a baby, perhaps not even more than a year old, with… pic.twitter.com/qZGfCRWakd
- Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) December 29, 2023
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