Charli XCX Reveals Featured Artists on brat Remix Album

[zodgory]

Brat and it’s completely different but also still brat feat: pic.twitter.com/Bn6HD2LRiE
- Charli (@charli_xcx) October 4, 2024
The singer posted "Brat and it’s completely different but also still brat feat:" with a series of photos of lime green advertisements that spelled various artists' names backwards

Comments

[donaestrangera]

yeah it doesn't work for either ariana or taylor because their problems at the moment are self-inflicted so i rolled my eyes when i saw that lyric, but whatever lol. at least ariana might serve vocals.

i'm very curious about taylor and charli's friendship and subsequent falling out lol. taylor and charli clearly got along fine during reputation tour when she opened for her but they never seemed to be that close, while camila and charli had a genuine warmth between them. that's why i knew charli wasn't really shading camila earlier this year and she later came out and clarified it was just a part of the brat act. but when did taylor and charli fall out? someone noticed charli was never around during taylor and matty's relationship so it could have been earlier than that and not a cause of that. i just want to know the drama! they both have their issues in different ways so it's very spider-mans pointing at each other meme.

i knew taylor wasn't going to be on the sympathy is a knife remix so i got very annoyed when i tried to read the updates on this album on other sites and the threads were just filled with swifties spamming if taylor had been confirmed yet, so i did cackle that it seems to be ariana instead.

[floatinglately]

in a profile charli was quoted comparing opening on rep tour to performing for five year olds and she said after the profile came out her words had been misconstrued and it was a wonderful opportunity blah blah but i’ve kinda always wondered if that signified or caused some off vibes bc i could see taylor taking that poorly (and honestly fairly or not, i would get it if that were true even tho idt charli said anything wrong and also if you watched the rep netflix doc when she the openers came onstage during shake it off camila was bopping and charli looked like she was in a hostage video)

also honestly re they both have their issues in different ways, like, if sympathy is a knife IS about taylor (which… it is), the track doesn’t even say anything bad about taylor, it’s about being insecure and neurotic. i think taylor definitely has her demons but she presents a pretty happy shiny persona in public that i suspect holds true in private but not intimate moments (like at celeb parties or whatever, as opposed to with her close friends), and based on how charli is i can see her finding that just difficult to cope with. so IMO it doesn’t even need to be drama, the vibes could just be weird (esp since on the other side, one of taylor’s bigger insecurities historically seems to have been being uncool, and charli seems like a person who could activate that - comparing her audience to five year olds would not make taylor feel cool!) (ETA: like, charli literally has a song on brat about dasha, whose podcast called taylor’s mom fat and mocked her eating disorder… not saying taylor consciously made that connection in her calculus about how she feels about charli, but i think it illustrates that they have Very Different Vibes)

[donaestrangera]

yeah you're probably right tbh! it could just be a case of the vibes between them being off as opposed to actual drama, just because they never actually seemed that close even though they got along fine vs. charli and camila on the same tour who did feel actually close. so there might not have been much of a friendship there in the first place, which also explains charli never being around when taylor and matty were dating. she was a weird match for the rep tour in the first place, i'm going to have to find where she looked like a hostage lol.

yeah sympathy is a knife is not a diss track at all and actually kind of complimentary in terms of how much the subject of the song makes charli insecure. personally if someone wrote a song like that about me i would feel powerful. ia with you about charli probably making taylor feel uncool, but that's a good point that taylor's happy shiny persona doesn't really go with charli's personality either.

[genbu_no_miko24]

"as quoted comparing opening on rep tour to performing for five year olds"

"if you watched the rep netflix doc when she the openers came onstage during shake it off camila was bopping and charli looked like she was in a hostage video)"

JFALKSJA;J!! OMG I actually do remember that quote!! And I think I remember some users here mentioning that Charli looked like a hostage in comparison to Camila looool!!

"i think taylor definitely has her demons but she presents a pretty happy shiny persona in public that i suspect holds true in private but not intimate moments (like at celeb parties or whatever, as opposed to with her close friends), and based on how charli is i can see her finding that just difficult to cope with."

I feel the culture difference in both of them cause this cause Brits are also admire but also feel intimidated(?) by the American optimism or spirited attitude even when things are not good. Cause I feel like Brits tends to be more self-deprecating and more blunt about their feelings instead of putting on a front. And so I could see how Taylor putting shiny perfect front could trigger an insecurity in Charli. Granted I could be totally wrong lol.

"ne of taylor’s bigger insecurities historically seems to have been being uncool, and charli seems like a person who could activate that"

This is 100% true cause I'm immediately thinking of that one verse from we are never ever getting back togther:

I'm really gonna miss you picking fights
And me falling for it, screaming that I'm right
And you would hide away and find your peace of mind
With some indie record that's much cooler than mine

Which is a shame because I remember thinking her playing up to her cringe nature was endearing at the beginning of her career. Pop girls are at their best when they can poke fun at themselves.

[floatinglately]

i actually agree that taylor is most endearing when she owns her cringe but also……. this is legit a big part of why i think she and travis have a chance to go the distance lmao. they are cringe4cringe! she will never have to worry about him being too cool for her or making her feel basic or like a dork! she wrote a line on TTPD where she says “were you making fun of me with some esoteric joke” and that is truly a concern she is free of in her current relationship, bless.

[genbu_no_miko24]

Somehow I missed that Charli opened up for Taylor! I remember she took Camila on tour but I think I forgot about Charli? I think I vaguely~ remember.

" someone noticed charli was never around during taylor and matty's relationship so it could have been earlier than that and not a cause of that."

Not a lot people were were they? I feel like I only saw Matty in the US, did they ever go to the UK when they were together? I remember seeing Zoe Kravitz and Jack Antoff because it was all during the Midnights era but I don't remember seeing any of Matty's people at all?

It's interesting cause I think most people get turned off or paranoid to a degree of her level of fame and the microscopic-parasocial focus of attention being around gets someone. And anyone near her must realize how much she is behind that attention. Travis seems to be the only one absolutely drinking it all up! Matty, Joe, and Calvin on other hand got overwhelmed and spooked by it...I wouldn't be surprised if the real spooky for them is really how much power she wields because she'll use it against you like in the case of Joe and Calvin. So I'm not surprised she never seemed to be invited or got close enough to Matty and Charli's social circle?

[donaestrangera]

the way i know all this because i read and watched every interview about the making of Señorita, because i was shocked when i found out it was Charli XCX who wrote the song during Reputation tour and gave it to Camila!!! Camila may be the one associated with that song in the public eye but Charli is the one who made bank off of it.

that's true that the entirety of the time they were together publicly they were in the United States because of the Eras Tour, but i guess i would've thought that during the time they were together not so publicly Taylor and Charli would've spent some time together. but maybe not! i think the other user i responded to is probably right that it may just be a personality clash more than an actual falling out and of course the microscopic focus of attention contributes to that. it's just really hard to imagine, if Taylor and Matty had made it, her fitting in with his group of friends including Charli and vice versa. there's an alternate reality where Taylor was having a BRAT summer instead of cosplaying as a WAG and the image of it is cracking me up.

[genbu_no_miko24]

Yeah I remember being shocked to see Charli on the writing credits a few years back!! Charli has def secured herself financially because she's written for a lot of artists! Which is funny cause some of these artists like Icona Pop (I don't care), Selena Gomez (Same ol' love) and Camilla (Señorita) were getting the big radio/chart hits while Charli wasn't getting that same recognition despite the fact that she was co-writing hit songs for other people!! I think that use to really eat away at her cause she def wanted that mainstream success. Which she's finally getting with BRAT but I also think she's comes to terms that she likes this type of success and doesn't need to that HUGE level of success cause similar to Lana and Marina, I don't think they're cut out for that super mainstream level of fame. All of them are better off in their niche spaces while occasionally finding success in the mainstream.

Yeah I read floatinglately's reply and I do remember Charli's quote about REP tour being like performing for 5 years old!! I wouldn't be surprised if that rubbed Taylor the wrong way cause she does have an insecurity about not being in that cool category of artists. Plus I think she has to have her own insecurity about her music not sounding adult compared to her peers and the younger gen. Charli has maintained her club/party girl shtick since the beginning but it doesn't feel like someone stuck in their teens, it has its own maturity vibe and looking at her age it's interesting she's only 3 years younger than Taylor. I thought she waaaay younger but again I don't feel like Charli is stuck in the way that Taylor kinda does come off.

But I guess it helps that even though Charli has been grinding since she was 16, she didn't release her debut until 21 which while still young is a bit more grounded than a teen. Whereas Taylor was 17 when debuted. Doesn't seem like a lot but Charli did probably get a little more life experience and got over the teenage angst or emotions pre-fame whereas Taylor was writing about on albums. So I'm like that George Clooney quote about people being stuck at the age they got famous is kinda ringing true.

"if Taylor and Matty had made it, her fitting in with his group of friends including Charli and vice versa. there's an alternate reality where Taylor was having a BRAT summer instead of cosplaying as a WAG and the image of it is cracking me up."

This actually could've been sweet cause I would've loved to see it lol!! Taylor dancing drunk or semi-drunk around a boiler room set in Ibiza or London would've been HILARIOUS and kinda cute to see. I think it would've helped her PR image a bit to see more loose and relaxed instead of being NFL WAG!! Gimme that American in Ibiza/Europe escapism Taylorrrr!!

[felicityevans]

Didn't Taylor make a special appearance at a 1975 show before the ERAS tour? That specific incident may be what the song refers to.

[serenachan]

It's interesting cause I think most people get turned off or paranoid to a degree of her level of fame and the microscopic-parasocial focus of attention being around gets someone. And anyone near her must realize how much she is behind that attention. Travis seems to be the only one absolutely drinking it all up! Matty, Joe, and Calvin on other hand got overwhelmed and spooked by it...I wouldn't be surprised if the real spooky for them is really how much power she wields because she'll use it against you like in the case of Joe and Calvin. So I'm not surprised she never seemed to be invited or got close enough to Matty and Charli's social circle?

IDK if that counts as his "social circle" but she seems close to the head of his label (who people have said Matty is very close to, the 1975 have been with the same label since forever). Like she put him in the VIP tent at Eras even after she and Matty broke up, and there was a video from this summer (maybe Coachella?) where she was seen introducing him to Travis.