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mayjailer September 20 2024, 19:42:03 UTC

i watched the first 3.5 episodes last night, and unless things go sideways after that point i felt like it was pretty sympathetic to them and painted josé as the monster that he was. i actually thought maybe, just maybe, murphy was on the right side of things for once and that the series' goal is to gradually reveal the parents as the true monsters.

i know a clip of lyle giving erik a brief kiss on the lips gained a lot of traction on twitter, and having seen it i prepared for the worst. but it wasn't at all romantic/homoerotic (though the shirtless embrace in the series' teaser was in terrible taste). if anything, the kiss gave me godfather ii vibes*, but again i don't know if there is further fuckery that i didn't get to yet.

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mjgchick September 20 2024, 20:29:17 UTC
What really got me is that they made sure to remind us Kitty was also a monster. She molested those boys and allowed her husband to SA them.

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mayjailer September 20 2024, 20:48:24 UTC

right, she gets her due as well in the episodes i've seen. i'm going to see it through to the end bc i'm curious how it could go wrong from where i left off.

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sjazzmreow September 21 2024, 05:14:48 UTC
I've seen all but the final, and they do largely stay on the brothers' side - Eric particularly. Jose's portrayal just gets worse and worse.

The first couple of episodes have plenty of gross Ryan Murphy ott-ness/letcherous sensationalism, but as it goes on those dial back a lot and I actually think it's quite clever in how doesn't fully commit to a version of the truth and at once portrays them as victims and problematic. There are also some great film making/acting in there too.

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mayjailer September 21 2024, 05:51:52 UTC

yeah, i've now seen 7/9 episodes and, at the risk of sounding like a snob, i feel like a lot of people are being very simplistic in their interpretation of the series and murphy's intentions. again, he has a terrible reputation that precedes him, but this doesn't feel nearly as exploitative and sensationalist as i was expecting based on defenders of the brothers' reactions.

is lyle perhaps depicted too heavily as a sociopath? sure, i can see that. but in the moments where the brothers are depicted as being involved in an incestual relationship, it's clearly a projection of dominic dunne's bias. it's almost as if a lot of people have never been exposed to the concept of an unreliable narrator.

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