Winona Ryder worries about film's future and diminished interest in film among her young co-stars

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Winona Ryder loves working with the young co-stars she’s been given over the last several years, but there is one aspect of them she isn’t exactly a fan of: their diminished love of film.

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- TheWrap (@TheWrap) August 28, 2024
• In a recent LA Times profile, Winona Ryder spoke from the heart

Comments

[m_pendulum]

I know it can sound pretentious but I think the best music comes from people who genuinely love and respect the craft. Same goes for film and television. These a living mediums and I think having a lack of curiosity in a creative field is weird. You don't have to love everything, but like there is a clear line between His Girl Friday-to any modern snappy dialogue film/tv show. Sam and Diana is the reason why most tv couples are the way they are.

It is good to at least know where things come from.

[imnotasquirrel]

ia. and i don't think you have to know all of the old school films/songs/books/etc. under the sun for this to hold true. but you have to exhibit curiosity and appreciate the landscape, if that makes sense.

anyone remember the discourse a while back about writers who don't read books? iirc ana mardoll was at the scene of the crime lol.

[bttrsondaughter]

Ana Mardoll was trying to say that expecting authors to be readers was ableist or something like that?

[imnotasquirrel]

lmfao yep

[screw_reality]

Lockheed Mardoll was one of the crazier Twitter reveals.

[bttrsondaughter]

yeah a lot of people have been saying “well it’s just a job to them” but. it’s not just a job, it’s a job where they’re making art, I feel like people have to have some passion for their medium if they’re making art

[imnotasquirrel]

i don't think there's anything wrong with people who do view writing books/making music/movies as another job, but i wouldn't take them seriously as an artist. and maybe they're okay with that! i guess you don't need passion if you're cranking out a james patterson book lol.

[gumby]

yeah, we've been encouraged to empathize with actors as workers, especially amid the strikes, so that we can see that they've also faced harsh labor conditions that need to be changed.

it's a good thing to recognize, but people also go too far with the comparisons by saying "actors are just there for a paycheck, who cares if they have passion for it or not." people are framing art in such transactional terms now.

[hateistoodark]

Also we all have to learn things and research for our normie jobs!

[januarysix]

Moonlighting was the reason why many tv couples prolonged getting together as much as possible or even at all because of the moonlighting curse: that once your UST couple gets together then your show tanks because audiences get bored.

[sharo_8760]

It's a misinterpretation, though, because what tanked Moonlighting was not the main characters getting together but a combination of bad off-screen relationships, Bruce Willis's burgeoning movie career, and bad writing. But a lot of writers took the wrong lesson out of all that!

[silverstarry]

And the writers' strike!

[veracity]

Exactly. You should be enraged in what came before. This is a terrible example but that was almost the point in Bring It One when they added the the 60s dance moves. You should at least be curious about the veterans you're working with.

Imagine not being engaged in Donald Sutherland playing your grandfather. What he's played before inspires the current role. Or not knowing Keanu's beyond Wick and maybe Speed. How about working with Meryl and never seeing Silkwood or Kramer? Whoopi's 80s and 90s roles were so varied.

[silverstarry]

This reminds me of the Project Runway season when Tim Gunn got really mad about one (some?) of the designers not knowing enough fashion history to do a challenge where they had to create something inspired by a previous time period. I think it's possible to work in a creative field and write/act/dance/sing/paint/sculpt/design based purely on talent BUT it really benefits you to know about past works and artists, as well as the evolution of the trends in your creative field over time.

[ambermoons]

Not only that but I feel like there's this weird insistence, and I've noticed this happening in many facets of entertainment, on being disinterested in past inspiration or being well read about what informs the content you are making today, when really the desire to create anything usually comes from inspiration by something that they've seen and been affected by. Because I'm sorry to those people who desperately want to be seen as cutting edge, you are definitely not doing anything that hasn't already been done before, even if how you present your material has something unique to it. You're more often than not just being an asshole who thinks they're above it all, and the least you can do is acknowledge where that desire to create came from.