Blake Lively repeatedly refers to transgender people as traxxies in resurfaced interviews

Aug 18, 2024 18:11


Fury as Blake Lively repeatedly refers to transgender people as trannies in resurfaced interviews https://t.co/LCUykYaPgW pic.twitter.com/Z64aILEELW
- Daily Mail US (@DailyMail) August 18, 2024
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genbu_no_miko24 August 18 2024, 22:39:14 UTC

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michaelscott August 18 2024, 22:52:34 UTC
i never ever used this term and nor did any of my friends bc we knew it was wrong. it kinda shocks me how normalised it was for others

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genbu_no_miko24 August 18 2024, 22:54:43 UTC
For me it's right up there with "that's so gay/don't be such f**" or "how ret****" and a few other words. It'd be hypocritical for me to act all offended and shocked when this was literally acceptable and normalized to a high degree when I was a kid.

I think it didn't get pushback until my 20s.

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michaelscott August 18 2024, 23:09:53 UTC
me and my friends definitely fell victim to the "that's so gay" era but... we were also gay so idk. we didn't use the other words

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genbu_no_miko24 August 18 2024, 23:11:18 UTC
Lol well you guys are part of the community so you had leeway whereas the rest of us clearly didn't!!

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skyler_white_yo August 18 2024, 23:11:37 UTC
I feel that there is a definite generation thing because millennials and younger knew those words weren’t acceptable. However Gen X and older heard/used those terms all the time growing up.

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michaelscott August 18 2024, 23:13:09 UTC
yeah fair, i'm a millennial and have always been chronically online so i've always had a front row seat when it comes to the development or eradication of slang

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floatinglately August 18 2024, 23:33:28 UTC
i am also a longtime chronically online millennial and i really do think the chronically online thing matters here…. like the place where i learned that t***** was a slur was the internet, 100%. and i’m glad i learned it there but given that it did not come up in my non-online life for a LONG time after, i have a hard time judging people for solely language-related offenses because i’m like… well the thing that separates me from them is my weird hobby of being on niche websites all the time. that’s not by itself a moral trait, even if it has informed my morality, if that makes sense. like given that in the rest of my life, again, this stuff almost never comes up, who knows what i might have been saying if i hadn’t gotten into checking the feminist blogosphere in like eleventh grade?

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genbu_no_miko24 August 18 2024, 23:16:43 UTC
Hmm I disagree cause I'm a millennial myself and all of us were using it nonchalantly like no tomorrow. We were def not in the right there.

The course-correction def started later in our era cause I'm remembering those Hilary Duff commercials anti-homophobia around the time I was in my 20s.

By the time Gen z became teens, it was already known as a slur.

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floatinglately August 18 2024, 23:23:31 UTC
i’m a millennial and i would say when i was in middle/high school r- (i don’t even like typing out the redacted version) was pretty commonly used and by a lot of people not considered more offensive than “stupid.” i don’t recall using it and know after a certain point i chose not to, but tbh i think a big part of that is because in ninth grade i read a novel with a very affecting scene around that word & its impact, and sometimes i wonder if i hadn’t happened to read that book, would it have seemed less of a big deal to me than it did? i’m not sure i remember ever having an irl conversation that emphasized to me why it wasn’t okay (although it might have happened when i was younger and i just forgot it ( ... )

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__onthebound August 19 2024, 04:44:47 UTC
I used r-- as a self directed insult 99.9% of the time growing up. I do recognise it now. I don't want to say "it was the 90s/00s". I didn't grow up in a small town.

I *never* heard that's so g-- until I moved to n California for school.
It was coming from the Minnesota/mass people. Maybe that was a popular one there because it was all r-- where I grew up

(Idk how to describe finding the evolution of language from hateful slurs to common use (still hateful) and then a general realisation this really was a bad thing....it's interesting to me)

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emptyobsidian August 19 2024, 01:24:30 UTC
When I was in elementary school, I actually had multiple teachers use that word to refer to students. They explained that it meant "slower to get certain subjects" so the class was r-ed if we didn't get a math concept. I legit did not realize it meant anything else until like, high school. Then, it was shocking that it would ever be used in a negative way or a way that isn't just "we need to spend more time on this subject matter." I was stunned the first time someone reacted negatively to me saying it.
Also, no idea that g-ped? referred to the people. I had always spelled it completely differently in my head so, again, I was like WTF the first time someone made the connection for me. Like, never even occurred to me and it wasn't spelled the same way in my head.
It's just gross how offensive slurs can be normalized to the point of being fed to kids in bizarrely benign ways.

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genbu_no_miko24 August 19 2024, 01:30:53 UTC
g-ped?

Yeah people wanna act like it's super shocking that others were using it but it was super normalize. Most of the time it's presented benign like you mentioned.

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silverstarry August 19 2024, 02:12:02 UTC

This reminds me of the anecdote in The Divine Secrets of the Ya Ya Sisterhood when one of the girls overheard her mom insult something by saying, "That is so joon-ya leeg." The daughter interpreted it as a generic insult meaning bad or tacky. She later said the same thing in front of a classmate's mother who asked her to repeat what she had just said. That's when the daughter finally realized that her mom had been saying JUNIOR LEAGUE because she hated the Junior League bitches.

I'm not excusing using slurs, but I agree with you that a lot of slang that children learn is based on context and if no one tells them that they're saying something bad (and why it's bad), then it becomes part of their vocabulary until someone tells them why they shouldn't say that.

Genuine ignorance is one thing. Adults who insist on continuing to use these words are a completely different matter.

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recognitions August 19 2024, 05:06:24 UTC
Boy these threads where people brag about all the slurs they used are so great

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genbu_no_miko24 August 19 2024, 05:46:16 UTC
No one bragging. We're just not denying the truth of how things were back then, better that than people lying and acting like they never~ were a product of their upbringing and culture.

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