Grimes shares her mother's plea to let her kids visit their dying great-grandmother

[my_moloko]

Grimes shares mother’s plea for Elon Musk to let their children see their great-grandmother

Grimes' grandmother is receiving end-of-life care and wishes to see her great-grandchildren one last time https://t.co/2Ps4hmWzOT
- NME (@NME) July 27, 2024
Grimes' mother, Sandy Garossino, took to Twitter to plead with Elon Musk to let his children visit

Comments

[bellyroomfan]

I hate how ONTD makes me into a Grimes defender but it is truly sick how people on here blame her for Elon's behavior and abuse. She made a poor decision in fall in love with this man and then having his kids but that doesn't justify the abuse she is suffering or the abuse their children are suffering. Yes, she sucks as a person but in this specific situation, he is the villian and the person in the wrong. He solely is to blame for his conduct. I hope this eventually results in him losing all custody but tbh, he's pulled this kind of shit with his companies and faced no repercussions so I am sure that is what will happen here too.

Re: Ariana DeBose

[bakemonos]

She is also the villain. I hope this helps.

RE: Re: Ariana DeBose

[bellyroomfan]

In the larger context, yes. In this circumstance, no, she is the victim. If Elon had killed her instead of just decided to hold her children hostage, would you still be calling her also the villian in this situation?

Re: Ariana DeBose

[beelzebaby]

and if elon suddenly started paying his fair share of taxes, would we still be calling him the villian?

since we're just making up scenarios now.

Re: Ariana DeBose

[bellyroomfan]

Yes, in this situation, he would still be a villain. As far as we are currently aware, Elon is refusing to allow the mother of his children access to said children that she seemingly legally still has. Even if she doesn't still have it for some legal reason, he still most likely did so through as a means of further abusing her through his financial and political power. It is almost like someone can be a villain in one situation (Grimes being a white supremacist and just a very unpleasant and unlikeable try-hard) and be a victim in another (Grimes being a victim of intimate partner abuse through this abusive litigation).

RE: Re: Ariana DeBose

[anagramofbrat]

still having Ariana problems?

Re: Ariana DeBose

[bakemonos]

Yeah babes. I'm stuck here forever now.

Re: Ariana DeBose

[estebanvihaio]

my woman king

[varioussaints]

As far as I can tell, people (including myself) are blaming Grimes for her behaviour, not his. In your own words you say she made a poor decision. That poor decision is now playing out with very real consequences. She is, barring evidence to the contrary of which we are not yet aware, someone who freely chose to reproduce with this man despite knowing his incredibly shitty track record. Hinging your future and the future of your child(ren) on "But maybe it'll be different with me!" is a horrible thing. But she chose it. It's not her fault that Elon is who Elon is, but it is her fault for seeing who he was and deciding to reproduce with him anyway. The children are the only true victims in this because they had no right or say over whether they came into existence. She likely just thought she was special, more special than the other women Elon had abandoned. Unfortunately, she was wrong, and she gets to live with the consequences.

[bellyroomfan]

Following this logic, any woman who dates an abusive man made poor decisions and therefore is facing the very real consequences of their actions. This is just victim blaming with more words.

[varioussaints]

To me, they aren't equivalent situations. Elon never hid who he was. It's one thing to enter into a relationship with someone whom you believe to be a good person, or a reformed/changed person after prior issues, but he has never changed and will never change. I have no doubt that Elon is very charming and persuasive and probably does lie to women and tell them that they'll be different, but there is a very public history showing that he is a lying liar who lies to get whatever he wants, whenever he wants, and if he has to throw around his money and power to make it work for him, he will. It's not victim blaming to say that someone has made a bad decision by not only choosing to be with but then also reproducing with someone who has been publicly known (for seemingly the entirety of his public life) to be a giant piece of shit.

[bellyroomfan]

So at some point, if you know someone is shit, their actions become your fault? This just reads like all of those people who said "I believe victims" but posted pro Debt stuff because they didn't like Amber Heard. Victims don't have to be perfect to be victims. Next you're gonna be saying that rape victims deserve it because they were dressed in skimpy clothes and they were in the wrong part of town so they should have known better.

[you_hermit_crab]

You can't seriously be comparing a lack of sympathy for a nazi to rape apologists.

[bellyroomfan]

Abuse victims are victims period. They can be shitty human beings but they do not deserve to be abused. The argument that a victim deserves their abuse because they are a bad person is at the very least a slippery slope. There are no perfect victims and the fear that a victim will be perceived as not being a perfect victim keeps people in abusive situations.

I personally would like for Grimes to no longer be abused by Elon so she can suffer the consequences of her racist views and fall into obscurity.

[you_hermit_crab]

Not a single person is saying she deserves anything, though.

[bellyroomfan]

"Grimes knew exactly who he was before she had children with him and yet still freely chose to do so. This is what happens when you have children with controlling, angry, vengeful men" so you are claiming that this direct quote from a poster above is not claiming she deserved what's currently going on? Suffering the consequences of your actions when it comes to choosing an abusive partner is saying they deserve to be abused because of that choice.