Charli XCX says hot, cool girls listen to Lana Del Rey
charli xcx says that 'hot girls listen to lana del rey' in a new interview!!pic.twitter.com/JcOKbk2Vgu
- Carla ౨ৎ (@oceanblvdvinyl) June 10, 2024
When sitting on a podcast discussing her newest album, the hosts mentioned a reference of Lana on her song called “mean girls ( Read more... )
I feel like the fanbase gives more chasing certain aesthetics that none of us actually live or look by irl. It's just a lot of aesthetics lol.
A lot of vicarious living
Regarding Charli I always get the feeling she's a bit envious that girls like Lana who've had success while being a niche artist than straight mainstream. Cause Charli is in that same niche space but hasn't had that same impact, respect and vindication that Lana managed to achieve. Granted Charli did have an actual mainstream hit with Boom Boom Clap whereas I think the Summertime Sadness Remix is the only Lana single to be popular but that's a remix.
But who knows Charli may later~ be looked back with praise over her pop style. Not all artistry is immediately respected for some artists until years later.
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I think Charli has a chip on her shoulder that the glowing reviews she gets have not translated to the mainstream popularity she wants. At least she’s finally being honest about it because for years she pretended she didn’t care… but it was obvious she does care and she’s jealous of more popular artists.
I was just curious so I checked Spotify and despite Charli having just released an album which is when her numbers would be the highest she has about 15 million monthly listeners while Lana hasn’t released an album for over a year and has 55 million monthly listeners. 😬
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https://www.nme.com/news/music/charli-xcx-im-kind-of-a-chart-flop-recently-2537431
Cause she started tweeting lol:
i’m kinda a chart flop recently but honestly lol if u think i care.
- Charli (@charli_xcx) August 11, 2019
Charli:
honestly, i’m fucking iconic
- Charli (@charli_xcx) August 11, 2019
then a few years later is when she complained about critics lol. I remember another user I think williammiller(?) saying that "charli is too much of a Leo for me to believe that" when she said she doesn't care looool. I think still think about that comment haha!!
Funny the Lana comparison because I just noticed they debuted only a year apart! Lana first in 2012 and Charli in 2013. But similar to Lorde, the comparisons don't really make sense. Lana and Lorde's music is more grounded and has meaning cause it's serious whereas Charli's music is not serious and literally hyperpop and in general the pop fields always have it harder when it comes gaining respect. And Charli's music comes off nonsensical and shallow lyrical (not to say Lana's lyrics aren't ridiculous to embarrassing lol), I'm not surprised when people say it's "just noise". Plus Lana wasn't just music alone, there was a well-packaged image and opulence visually in her music videos that really set her apart from the other artists.
But I think most of her praise comes because she is experimental with pop music and doesn't avoid sounds that a more traditional pop musician/producer would. I mean vroom vroom is a masterpiece.
I think Marina also had similar envy over not being bigger but I think she accepted her place. But Charli clearly wants that mainstream spot even though similar to Lana, I always feel they're not cut out for it. I think when Charli released Sucker she was feeling the pressure and demand of mainstream and stepped back but she still clearly wants that mainstream success.
Lana and Charli are girls that benefit from that niche corner because they can get away with more and have more flexibility that mainstream artists don't always have.
*Sigh* Such fussy pop stars!
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yeah Charli, Lana and Lorde are all too different for it to actually be a legit comparison. Charli doesn't focus much on her lyrics but is more experimental with her production while Lana/Lorde are known as lyricists and their production is not as out there. i do not think the masses will tolerate experimental production which is why Charli has gotten kind of pigeon holed as an artist with a primarily gay audience while Lana and Lorde are more popular with the GP. also, coming from SE Asia where experimental production is tolerated even less than in the United States, I can say my friends living there know who Lana is (Lorde not as much but that's because she goes years without releasing music) but none of them know Charli.
i'll be honest i don't get it because i think Charli has a great career and is spending too much time focusing on what she doesn't have vs. what she does have. even if she's not getting huge hits, she has a loyal fanbase who actually BUYS her albums and attends her tours which is where the $$$ comes from! she's not in any danger of being dropped by her label, she can probably continue her career as long as she wants! like since people brought up the Camila comparison, on the surface it looks like Camila is more successful because of her huge hits (Havana etc) but Charli's last album Crash sold more than Camila's last album Familia and it's been ages since Camila last toured. i would say Charli's career is in a better place than Camila's.
but i guess Charli knows she's being a brat about it lol.
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Camila at this point is clearly a singles artist. But I can see her gripe with Camilla cause she's clearly copping her style, so it probably does suck seeing someone else getting moderate popularity to more attention at something that you're more known for.
But I agree with you cause Charli is an interesting position cause like you said has the fanbase, the album sales and she's financially good cause she writes for other artists who songs do well so she's getting those residuals. But I get it....you always want a taste of that top spot.
I wish her well but lol she's gotta make more accessible pop music to achieve that. But she already did that with SUCKER and she only came off hating that album and didn't wanna promote it lol.
You to Charli:
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Charli is typically more obvious and bitter about the artists she's threatened by, like Rina Sawayama or Camila Cabello. I don't think Lana is in the same wavelength Charli is for her to feel envious by her.
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The Lana wave-length just made me of her admitting that she was envious of Lorde's success which similar to Lana doesn't make sense cause neither Lana nor Lorde's music sound anything like Charli.
But she clearly envies their success. I bring in Lana cause similar to Charli, they're both niche artists that found success despite not being mainstream artists but Lana has managed to really excel in that area and get some attention from the mainstream/awards groups despite not occupying that space whereas Charli hasn't had that. Which funny cause Charli as a songwriter has more chart toppers than Lana cause she's written for other artists whose singles went to the top of the charts.
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