D&D briefly discuss the controversial Game of Thrones ending

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David Benioff & D.B Weiss knew the ‘GAME OF THRONES’ ending would be controversial but “hoped that it would be a little more 50/50”

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- DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) March 30, 2024
-D&D discussed the ending of Game Of Thrones ever so briefly on a podcast

Comments

[thrysus]

oh fuck off. I'm a huge fan of the books and they fumbled it from day one. despite excellent production value, huge budgets, fantastic casting, and a wonderful soundtrack, they would have gone off the rails FAR earlier were it not for the books to keep them (largely) on track. The moment they went past ADWD they were totally lost. Sure, they got the broad strokes of the ending from GRRM, but instead of laying the groundwork and giving the payoff, they fucked it up soooo hard in their rush to go do a star war

They deserve absolutely every ounce of criticism they got, and then some.

[deerlike]

💯

The moment they reduced Catelyn to "shrew nag evil stepmother" archetype in season 1 itself, I got the sinking feeling that they had no respect (such that it was) for the female characters they couldn't show with their tits out. And then they completely omitted Lady Stoneheart for... what? Making Bronn their dudebro audience insert? Having more sexposition brothel scenes? Using rape as character development?

Pathetic. That's why I call the show schlock with pretensions of intelligence but no real understanding of the books. Somehow having that HBO label slapped on managed to bamboozle the critics into calling it prestige television when it was anything but that. Just a poorly-plotted, poorly-characterised mess.

(And I'm not even touching on their dodgy racial politics right from the get-go (their unironic mhysa scene, Oberyn/most of the whitewashed Dornish casting, etc etc), because that would be another rant and a half.)

[artemisofluna]

I was so sad about Catelyn, I loved herrrrr in the books.

[angedesoir]

No, don’t, don’t cut my hair, Ned loves my hair.

Broke me into a mess. 💔

We were robbed of Lady Stoneheart.

[jojito]

My memory is faulty, and I read the books a long time ago, but wasn't Catelyn even worse to Jon in the first book? I remember she telling him it should've been him the one who fell of the tower? And not wanting Jon to stay with them while Ned was gone and being happy he went to the wall?

[deeohaytch]

Yeah Catelyn was really rude to Jon because he was living proof of Ned’s infidelity (even tho he wasn’t)

[deeohaytch]

Yeah Catelyn was really rude to Jon because he was living proof of Ned’s infidelity (even tho he wasn’t)

[thrysus]

yes, but she was also a very devoted mother to her children and by far the wisest daughter of the Tullys. Her interactions with Robb prior to the Red Wedding were so good in the books because of how shrewd she was, and how ignored. Her relationship with Lysa, Edmure, the Blackfish and her father was almost totally flattened in the show, which was a shame because all of it--from her reluctant trust in Mya Stone, bastard, leading her up to the Eyrie, to her realising from her dying father that he'd aborted Lysa's baby by Petyr Baelish--was really meaty, interesting character stuff

[jojito]

There was definitely more to her in the books, but that can be said about many characters.
I loved tv Catelyn. Her devotion to her family and her intelligence came across well imo. Ofc I wish they had spent more time on her (and cutting Lady Stoneheart was a big mistake). I remember her chapters being among my favorites when I read the books.

[swissbeauty23]

yes exactly! the books make you understand WHY these awful people are awful and have empathy for them (except like Ramsey lol he's pure evil). but here's so much grayness and nuance in each character and that's what it makes it so damn good.

[bakemonos]

Yeah book Catelyn was also shit but Lady Stoneheart made her interesting post-death.

[bloopbloop01]

I really really wanted a lady stone heart plotline.

[buries]

I still can't believe they didn't do Lady Stoneheart. I'm not there in the books, but I really loved the concept and Michelle would've killed it.

(Everything else you said is 100% correct.)

[swissbeauty23]

the fact they left out the fantastic Lady Stoneheart was....absolutely bonkers.

they loathe women. they really do.

[milkradio]

I’m still fucking floored that they cut Lady Stoneheart out. The Red Wedding is, like, THE THING everyone talks about with this show! Imagine bringing her back “wrong” after that! Ugh.

[tinurix]

I think people forget the original pilot was so bad they had to scrap it. I think despite consistently shitty characterization, they managed to stumbled into a decent season one, but they can thank the cast for a lot of that, and you could see the cracks forming long before the finale.