Jeremy Allen White on Kimmel

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Jeremy Allen White talks about going to restaurants with Ayo, the Christmas episode of The Bear, taking his family members to award shows, and learning to wrestle for his new movie The Iron Claw about the Von Erich brothers.

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[_kleptomane]

The Christmas episode of the second season is so embarrassing. I know that's an unpopular opinion but everything...from the exhausting calculated stunt cameos, to the way it was shot, to Jaime Lee Curtis absolutely chewing the scenery was so cringe and the ultimate example of award bait. It also felt like it went on, and on, and on. I absolutely hated it. It's like they wanted to capture the magic and urgency of the edge of your seat episode seven from season one but just took it way overboard. The show I think really shines when it comes to its quieter, introspective, and sort of character study episodes but then every few ones there's an episode like...that.

[jojito]

I liked that episode because it explained a lot about the family and why Carmy is so addicted to chaos and why Mickey did what he did. But I agree that the best episodes of the second season were the quiet ones: Sydney going to restaurants, Marcus in Copenhagen and Richie working in the fancy kitchen.

[quinnmorgendorf]

You're right and you should say it. I hated that episode, I felt like all I could see was the entire production team with their hands out like - AREN'T WE WOWING YOU?! GIVE US OUR AWARDS!

I did love Jeremy's performance though because he was actually giving a performance and reacting to his scene partners, unlike everyone else who seemed to be delivering monologues directly to Emmy voters.

Also I can't believe JLC was the best they could do for Donna. I know they originally wanted Michelle Pfeiffer for the role, but was Lorraine Bracco also busy? Edie Falco? Katey Sagal? Annabella Sciorra? Literally any other actress over 60 would've been better.

[cynical_sweater]

Katey Sagal would have been terrifying. She's still got that Gemma Teller energy.

[jojito]

Oh, I wish it had been Michelle!

[shittysoup]

[mary_pickforded]

[zipster]

it was over the top -- i agree that s1e7 was executed way better

[teenageriot16]

my other half actually found the episode triggering because it reminded him so much of his childhood.

Jon Bernthal was phenomenal in that episode.

[anagramofbrat]

I get it, the episode was A LOT/TOO MUCH for a lot of people and I agree that there were one two many cameos in it. Full stop. I also in general tend to dislike late stage JLC (she's stuck her foot in her mouth one too many times for me not to side eye everytime she's come up).

That said, I do not have any problems with her performance, I think she absolutely nailed how a person who maybe has an undiagnosed PD can (not always, but absolutely CAN) melt down under pressure and become an area of effect of lashing out, making it about herself, abusing and self harming in the space of a couple of hours, and I think the show did a great job with that aspect of it. Y'all saying it was OTT, well... count yourself lucky at never having to experience a holiday dinner with either your own or someone else's family where someone is acting out like this.

[_kleptomane]

Well funny enough, while never during a holiday celebration, I’ve experienced and observed plenty of mental health issues and breakdowns with family and friends and still found the episode ridiculous. It didn’t feel earnest, it felt very “look at how much these actors can ACT!” Like even the scene with Jon Bernthal and Bob Odenkirk and the fork fight was absolutely ridiculous and kind of melodrama cliche to the point I eye rolled and laughed the hardest at its conclusion. Some of the acting was good, I’ll give it that, but mostly it was actors chewing the scenery, vying for a nomination, with mixed results.