Zack Snyder has been texting Ezra Miller, excited to see ‘The Flash’

[queenursula]

Zack Snyder says that he's "super excited" to see #TheFlash movie:

"Ezra, I love him, and I've been texting him..." Details: https://t.co/KxzcLbHxA9 pic.twitter.com/4dfn5vZddv
- DCU - The Direct (@DCU_Direct) June 18, 2023

Zack Snyder says he's "super excited" to see #TheFlashMovie next weekend.

"Ezra, I love him. I've been texting with him. I'm

Comments

[allmylines]

do people really find pronouns that confusing?! is it just a boomer thing?

on a recent ep of the town podcast they were talking about this and the host always was good about using ezra’s pronouns but the guest NEVER GOT IT CORRECT ONCE.

ezra is TRASH but misgendering anyone just grinds my gears.

[syvlie0o0]

I'll be honest - yes, it can be hard. The vast majority of people only use "they" when talking about multiple people, so translating that in your head to use with only one person, in all instances can be hard. It's a lot easier to do in writing than in words.

Also sometimes people just don't know? Like if I wasn't on ONTD I'd have to clue about which people go by they/them.

[peachypearl]

Tbh if I wasn't on ONTD I'd have a very very low amount of positive/relevant information about pronouns that also frequently comes directly from people with their own experiences. Over the years there have been a large amount of deep conversations about that topic here (And many many other topics that one might not encounter in their own circle/country etc) that have taught me a lot about it.

It's also why I love ONTD, there is so much more here than gossip.

[allmylines]

The vast majority of people only use "they" when talking about multiple people

that's not true at all though, people use it all the time in a singular sense, they just don't think about it. like if someone says, "my coworker is being so annoying today!" the standard response would likely be something like, "ugh, what are they doing?"

i understand if english isn't someone's first language but aside from that it seems like willful ignorance on the part of a lot of people (including many ontd members tbh). maybe i'm just being ornery about it because i'm queer (i'm cis, though) and live in san francisco and have a lot of non-binary people in my circle, but unfortunately in a lot of cases i think it's just stubbornness or a subconscious thought that it's not "real."

[syvlie0o0]

You could also read the several comments in here from other people telling you it's difficult in regular conversation. 99% of people aren't doing it to be assholes, it happens because they don't realize it, or it's just something new they're getting used to. Someone who lives in SF and has lots of queer friends is not the same as other people who don't know a single non-binary person irl.

[allmylines]

tbh my comment was pretty rhetorical, i wasn’t expecting people to actually respond! ontd has not been the best in the past with trans/nb issues but i am going to take all the responses to me in good faith. as long as people are making an effort i think that’s understandable, it’s just when people don’t even try that it gets frustrating.

[colorfilm]

iactually find it easier in english and harder in my language bcos its very binary as romance languages are

[kjesta]

my language is super gendered grammatically, which makes NB pronouns REALLY hard. i never know how to tell ppl abt stuff my they/them-using friends, bc i don't want to use she or he for them, but there's no real proper alternative as of yet, and even among the NB ppl here opinions seem split on what the solution is, linguistically. sometimes i go "i'm using she in this convo bc language reasons and they're ok w she/they, but this friend is NB jsyk" idk. i'm v diligent abt pronouns but language barrier makes it more difficult. hope we make more progress soon.

[insomniachobs]

people use it all the time in a singular sense, they just don't think about it. like if someone says, "my coworker is being so annoying today!" the standard response would likely be something like, "ugh, what are they doing?"

Indeed. I think the brain hiccup about using it in the singular (assuming people are trying in good faith and not being jackasses**) is that most people's training is to reserve the singular use for examples like your co-worker where they can't deduce gender. The brain wants to do what's familiar so you have to overtly reprogram through repetition, and not everybody has enough NB people in their life to get much repetition. Hopefully the kids that come up won't be so trained to assume the binary as a default as we were!

I'm definitely way more likely to trip up on it when speaking than in writing, for some reason. Anecdotally a lot of people seem to find the same? Not sure why

**A lot of people are being jackasses

[pyroyale]

I imagine it can be especially hard with actors, tbh. Ezra plays male characters, so when you're talking about what the characters do in the movie, you would use "him." Switching back to "them", sometimes in the same conversation, could be a trip.

It doesn't excuse not trying your hardest though, obviously. Snyder should have done better here.

[hiimtish]

I think some people just don’t care enough :(

[squirrels_oh_no]

One of my colleagues who reports to the same boss as me goes by they/them and it's even in their email signature but our boss (and legit 90% of everyone else where I work, despite lots of people using the who she/her he/him in their signature) misgenders them constantly. As in never correctly genders them. To their face, even. And I don't even think it's prejudice at its root, it's laziness.

[hiimtish]

No I agree, I think a lot of the time it’s laziness.

But I do think here with Ezra people decide that because they did heinous things they don’t deserve that respect. They don’t see how it invalidates more than just this one celebrity.

[umilicious]

I may despise Miller, but I’ll never misgender them for that very reason. Using incorrect pronouns as insults is something a hateful conservative would do.

[la_petite_singe]

Exactly. Like, Ezra's never gonna see those sassy comments, but your friend who's nb might, or your friend who loves someone who's nb or whatever it might be.

[insomniachobs]

Yeah, you see that with Caitlyn Jenner as well. She's an awful awful person, but that's not a reason to call her a man