ONTD Original: a timeline of gross things Marky Mark has done
Follow up to this postIn light of some of the surprised Pikachu faces from non-ONTDers after Marky Mark's violent and racist past came to the attention of the media AGAIN thanks to SAG's brilliant idea to have him present the award for best movie ensemble to the cast of Everything Everywhere All at Once aka a group of Asian actors, I did some
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After I submitted this post, I found an interview he did with The Advocate during his post-Shabba Ranks apology tour. His version of what happened at the party:
We heard that you called somebody a f***** at Madonna's party and that she threw you out. The New York chapter of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) said you assaulted an executive from her label, Maverick Records.
The situation that happened was like this: Madonna was very upset about something that I had said about her in a London magazine. I didn't say what they said I said, but I did say I was a little upset by the way she was when I met her. I was a little disappointed.
We met briefly at a [Jean-Paul] Gaultier AIDS benefit. I had commented on her outfit, kinda joking around. The magazine was a London rag, so I should have realized that they would make this the big quote on the cover. They tried to make it something that it wasn't.
So then you met Madonna again after the London magazine came out?
Sometime later I came to this Truth or Dare party and saw Rosie O'Donnell and said, "Hi. How ya doing?" I didn't really know anybody at the party. I was by myself. I was there for ten minutes. As soon as I said hi to Rose, I went to the bathroom. By the time I got out of the bathroom, Rosie must have told Madonna that I was there.
Madonna approached you?
Madonna came trucking down the hallway with combat boots on. When she saw me, she came up to me and started going crazy. I was like, "What's up, Madonna?" She was like, "Don't fucking say hi to me. You know what the fuck you fucking did. You dissed me. You're a fucking asshole, a fucking fake."
I was like, "Well, first of all, Madonna, it wasn't what it was supposed to be." She started going crazy, and I started laughing, which made her more mad. She was like, "Well, fuck you." I was like, "Well, fuck you, too."
She said, "Well, I'm going to get somebody to kick your ass." And that's when she went over to this record company guy and this other reggae artist. And they came up to me and started saying stuff to me like "This ain't Boston. This is L.A." and insinuating that they had a gun, trying to egg me on. And I was laughing at them, blowing them off.
You stayed at the party?
I was sitting there talking to a guy from TriStar. He was like, "What's his problem?" I was like, "I don't know." I didn't even get into what had happened with Madonna. I was laughing.
First of all, the London magazines have said about everything in the book about her. And if I believed any of it, I would never have shaken her hand! So why would she just go berserk from something that she read in a London magazine?
You had no idea that she was upset?
No, I just kinda said hello, and it was like bang! I was just walking around asking, "Whose party is this? Oh, the guy who did Truth or Dare? Oh, oh, cool."
Then these guys [from Maverick Records] came back again. There were some more threats. I said, "As you can see, I just came here to have a good time." They were like, "Oh, we'll talk to you outside. I know you don't want to fight me." He was like, "I knew you were a pussy." I said, "All right. Whatever."
We started to walk outside, and I seen one guy on the left and this other kid standing on the right side. He kinda came toward me from the right. He was, "Yo, you and my man could just go one on one and squash it all now." I said, "What are you talking about?"
And that's when the dude swung at me and kinda grazed me on the side of the head. So I swung back at him, and when I hit him, he fell down. Me and him were wrestling, and I was on top of him, and the other guy came and punched me in the back of the head. So I fell down to the ground, and we started fighting. And then some other guy with a beer came over and kicked me in the back of the head. Then everybody started breaking it up from that point.
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Did you see Madonna again?
I was walking out and Madonna came over on the other side of the fence and was like, "Get the fuck out of here. You're a fucking asshole. I told you you were going to get your ass kicked. I was like, "Oh, fuck you."
And then some other big guy - who was supposed to be her boyfriend - comes running out, and he starts yelling and screaming at me in the streets. And then he started getting into it with some other guy who was just standing there. And they started fighting. I was like, "I'm out of here."
This is definitely not the story we heard!
I left, and the next day was when I went and saw Penny [Marshall] again to read for Renaissance Man.
Were you afraid this would ruin your chances of getting a role in her film?
Yes. I thought, "Oh, God. I just met Penny. And they all ran and told this big bullshit story." Penny had already heard from Madonna. She asked me, "What happened/" I told her about the press thing, and she told me, "Yeah, well Madonna's real sensitive to that stuff."
But it really hurt me too. As much as I try to go out and promote "do your own thing," I can't believe peole would listen to that. You'd think people who know me would know I wasn't a gay basher.
So then none of this was about calling anyone a f*****?
No! Obviously Madonna had a problem with me. She was like, "All right if you want to try to be smart and say something about me in the press, then I'm going to fuck with you," which was appalling.
I mean, honestly, I had a lot of respect for her. I think she's very talented. She's very smart. She does a lot of good. As much as she promotes wild sex, she does a lot for AIDS research and stuff like that. I really give her a lot of credit.
You're saying this was really all about her ego?
All I said to the magazine was "She looked different than what I expected." People say that kind of thing to me all the time. It doesn't bother me. So I really don't understand her.
I even heard a rumor that you called her brother a f*****.
Whose brother?
Madonna's.
It was never a gay issue.
So what happened is that all this got turned around into "Marky Mark hates gay and bashes them at parties"?
Well, of course! If your publicist calls the newspaper and says this is what happened, they will write that. It's like if I had gone to the police and said that those guys at the party attacked me, then that's what they would have written. But I was just appalled by it.
Some of the press implied that you were gay-bashing because you were afraid people would think you were gay.
No way. I wouldn't have done an entire gay tour and all the other things I've done. I realized early on that the way [photographer] Herb [Ritts] shoots is more of a beauty type thing and that it would make people look at me in that way. I wasn't bothered by that at all. I don't care what people think I am.
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And if there was any question about how unreliable a narrator he is, the section of the interview where he gives his version of what happened during the Shabba Ranks debacle puts it to rest.
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Let's start with what I've heard: You came to the defense of reggae singer Shabba Ranks last January when he condemned homosexuality on the British TV show The Word. He said it was against God's way, and you defended his right to say that.
No, no. First of all, this was a London tabloid TV show. I had come on, and they'd said some crazy things to me. They were trying to get me to take off my shirt. They asked me how I felt about my body selling more than my records, so I was kind of pissed.
What's this got to do with Shabba Ranks?
I was on my own, in the corner, sitting there while they were off interviewing Shabba. I didn't even see or hear what he said until I saw the videotape. Then I saw that he said he followed the Bible, and gays should be crucified. I was like, "Well, wait a second here."
Suddenly people were at me with "You were endorsing him, and you and him were saying gays should be crucified. I said, "I didn't say anything except "Leave me the hell alone" to the ladies on the show because they kept bothering me.
But you performed with Shabba Ranks, right?
Shabba Ranks was performing, and they were like, "We want you to go up and perform with him, spontaneously," and they pushed me out onstage and kept pushing me. There were cameras everywhere, so if you watch the video, you can see the lady and the guy pushing me. They handed me the microphone and said, "Go1 You're on!" and I'm like, "I'm on? This isn't my show? What are you talking about?"
The music kinda broke down and Shabba said, "I want to do this with Marky Mark. Come on up here." So I did this little rap, and at the end a commotion started, and I was like, "Fuck you! Fuck The Word! Fuck everybody! I can say whatever the hell I want. Shabba can say whatever the hell he wants. And you can way whatever the hell you want!" And then I walked off and threw the microphone down.
You saw all this on the videotape?
Yes. Three or four days later, we were in Hawaii, and people were asking me, "What were you doing, saying this and that on TV?" I said, "What are you talking about? I never said anything on TV. I never had anything to do with this." And they said, "Yes, you did." I said, "Play me the video." I saw it and was like, "Man, that wasn't me who said it." I watched it, and obviously I hadn't been aware of anything that was going on.
But people are saying, "Well, Marky, you always said that you feel this way and that way. Why didn't you stick up for us?" I was saying, "Wait a second. I was so mad at them telling me I needed Oxy on my face. They were totally disrespecting me." The show is known for that. They were going crazy on me. So I was just sitting there in my own world. And when I watched it, I was like, "Wow!" I felt that I should have said something.
I should have told Shabba, "You can think what you want, but first of all, you're not God. So you can't say. Everybody has the right to do whatever they want. Who are you to say or even imply that you are the one to follow these commands? Look at all the shit that's going on today.
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You didn't talk to him again until the two of you met at the Grammy awards?
Right. I ran into him at the hotel, and he said, "There are certain people who say you've gotten into a lot of trouble out of what happened. I didn't mean to implicate you in it at all." I said, "I told them I wasn't involved. But what's wrong with you? Why would you say something like that?"
He was like, "Well, you know, I'm a man of the Bible," and he started saying the same thing that he said on TV. I said, "Well, yo! If that's the way you feel, then that's the way you feel. But you don't have a right to be disrespecting people like that. First of all, you're not God, so you shouldn't be running around preaching things like that.
How did he respond?
I think, honestly, when I said it to him, he was taken aback and kinda got more into this pride thing about what he had said, like, "What is everybody going to say?" I said, "So? What is everybody going to say? That you're a tough guy cause you said this? That don't prove nothing. That don't make much sense."
I couldn't believe it happened. I had been sitting there like I was on The Gone Show! Then all this!
source: January 25, 1994 issue of The Advocate
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This is his interview on The Word
This is his performance with Shabba Ranks. You can see that he's already standing on the stage with a microphone when the music begins. The alleged commotion and mic drop that he described as happening at the end are nowhere to be seen.
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