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sirlolsworthy July 20 2021, 01:54:41 UTC
idk to me radio play having such weighting has always seemed weird because listeners by and large don't get much say at all in what gets played. They just play what's popular and whatever record labels have paid them to saturate the airwaves with (the so-called 'radio deals', which are just legal payola but don't tell stans that!). I distinctly recall a number of ONTDers who recounted working at radio stations saying calling in to request a song actually doesn't count for shit in what they actually play.

What I really want to see is someone brave enough to start putting out a chart that excludes website sales lol

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spiral_mystik July 20 2021, 02:26:17 UTC
The same goes for streamings, I'd say.
Normani was conveniently not on Spotify's Today Top Hits playlist (which has 29m listeners, so a lot more exposure) despite the fact that her song was one of the most streamed songs this weekend. But Justin was there the minute he came out with his new song of course.
People made fun of 6ix9ine but he wasn't far off when he said that Scooter Braun was sketchy.

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sirlolsworthy July 20 2021, 05:42:44 UTC
How do they even work that shit out re the playlisting? Dua Lipa's shit stays on TTH for like, a year, which is just ridiculous.

It's at least *slightly* more democratic ig in that you can skip songs and make your own playlists whereas radio doesn't care if you don't like it, if their label has paid for a deal it's getting played.

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spiral_mystik July 20 2021, 05:52:52 UTC
I'm wondering that too. Spotify's Twitter page always asks which song people want on that playlist, but I don't buy for one second that record companies don't pay for a spot on it.

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jemgirl90 July 20 2021, 02:35:45 UTC
So, do you mean only cd sales and No digital copy? It would be super low and more country, but mostly the same. I do not think videos should count anymore. Video really did kill the radio star.

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sirlolsworthy July 20 2021, 05:37:59 UTC
Nah I meant to deal with stans mass buying from artist websites, that's how they're able to get around restrictions on purchase amounts I believe (i'm not 100% on how it works but that's the impression chart twitter gave me). I have no idea how this would be implemented in reality but it's the next thing Billboard's gonna have to tackle if it wants its charts to look like they mean something. Artists/labels got away with bundles for the longest time until it became too obvious they were a manipulation tactic.

Video basically doesn't count anymore anyway, the amount youtube contributes got slashed a little while back i think bc of the spam streaming issue.

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jemgirl90 July 20 2021, 07:18:29 UTC
I do not see anything being done unless more artist fans do the same thing. I remember when Prince had Billboard change rules when he had the cost of his 2003 cd included in his concert tickets. He would sell out concerts and that is how that album sold millions.Billboard will just wait for BTS super stans to grow up and move on.There are many top tier artist that have never had a number 1. Bruce Springteen and Missy Elliot come to mind. They will have to learn the hard way that boybands do not get Grammys. This years Grammys I think will be go much more towards older artist with a splash of the big hitmakers.

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