Stephen Colbert thinks Lana del Rey's was wearing plastic underneath her mesh mask

[oldmoviesnstuff]

While talking about the insurrectionist mesh mask woman on his talk show, which was inspired by Lana del Rey's mask while at a booking signing in October, Stephen Colbert apparently defends Lana, seemly believing that was a layer of plastic beneath, saying:

"Big difference is that Lana Del Rey's mask had a layer of plastic beneath it whereas pal

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[xtinkerbellax]

I feel like people projected shit onto her because of the way she crafted her image and it just...wasn't accurate. And some sad people are still clinging to it.

[purrple_267]

I quite like her aesthetic and music and if I never read anything she said I might be a fan.

[lulufairybubble]

She never got a pass. She got the same 'she's not really pretty. She got surgery' bullshit others do.

[purrple_267]

In my case, the stylized retro Americana visuals work for me (I'm not American).

[sillycucumber2]

I enjoy it to a certain extent too (and I'm American). She's hyping up this fantasy of how America showed itself to be while her lyrics kind of pick apart at it.

Also like you, I think she's too dumb to really pull it all together.

[genbu_no_miko24]

Lol no Lana got trashed HARD for her cosmetic procedures since the beginning of her career.

Indie publications would go after her looks and authenticity.

[genbu_no_miko24]

Yeah on here and when she started out. Obviously she the criticism died down when she won people over with her music but when she debuted more focus was aimed at her looks and authenticity.

[shastafay]

i feel like you're comparing v different things.

lana did whatever procedures she did for her own personal aesthetic/cosmetic reasons, but it was never a defining part of the content she produces / sells to the world (on the contrary, it was picked on & endlessly discussed v much against her will in an extremely problematic & misogynistic way in the beginning of her career). so it was a personal choice that she never pandered or monetized.

the kardashians cosmetic surgeries however are an integral part of their brand since their image is their #1 (and arguably only) asset. not only that, they have built an entire beauty empire around that image & actively promote/sell their ideals to the world. so their plastic surgeries may have started as a personal choice but they turned them into a brand, which is precisely what makes it problematic.

[shastafay]

fair, but specific lana vs kardashians aside: do you think it's fair to put the onus of a patriarchal society's expectations re: women's appearance on individual women & their eventual body image issues, dysmorphias, etc? should a regular person who gets plastic surgery / cosmetic enhancements be vilified for their own personal choice? does that change if said person is a celeb, if they got plastic surgery pre or post fame, if they're monetizing & consciously promoting certain beauty ideals or not? what about facial feminization & other sex reassignment surgeries that usually follow current western beauty standards?

i don't necessarily have the answers to all these questions, i just think the issue is far more complex than 'plastic surgery = bad' & that all the above mentioned examples are definitely not the same.