Multiple South Korean celebs face school violence and bullying accusations

[goldie3]

South Korean women’s volleyball twins dropped after bullying pasts emerge https://t.co/YMQDTfzRVj
- SCMP News (@SCMPNews) February 15, 2021

TW: school violence, bullying, so please be careful about anything after the cut

Comments

[off_daze]

Really wish the Korean GP took sexual violence this seriously.

[talklikelions]

I have, my entire life, considered sexual abuse to be the absolute worst thing you can do. I’m finally starting to realize some people truly don’t agree and I’m?? How can you be so strictly against violence but then just shrug when women are being attacked and raped? Like I do not get it and it actually makes me so angry I feel sick.

[musicnkisses]

Because men can be bullied but most sexual assaults happen to women and is therefore seen as a women’s issue and men in SK are anti-feminist.

[off_daze]

I feel you. I agree with the poster above. There is so much victim blaming when it comes to sexual assault, and all these men protect each other. Even when someone is convicted of sexual violence, they don't serve much time. Laws are rooted in value systems afterall.

[aleksie]

In my experience, I think people have these ideas of who is a "real" victim and who is a "real" abuser... As well as what constitutes "real" abuse. All are really rigid and fucked up. I know people who claim to be against sexual violence and witnessed sexual violence. But because it's done by someone who doesn't look like what they think an abuser is (or even better, their friend/acquaintance) or the victim isn't who they think of a victim or the abuse/attack doesn't look like many SVU episodes, people downplay it.

[talklikelions]

I think that’s a HUGE part of it. There’s a fixed idea in people’s heads- especially men- of what abuse looks like. Rather than accept that their worldview is not actually the entire world and yknow, do something about that and educate themselves, they just double down and insist anything that doesn’t fit their notion isn’t real.

It’s the same disconnect Trumpians use to defend him. If it doesn’t fit my world view, it isn’t real, and therefore bad things aren’t actually happening.

[aleksie]

Yeah. I have had people witness sexual abuse that happened to me or have had heard me talk about it. Because they knew the abusers (even friends or close friends) and I wasn't nearly killed, they have downplayed it considerably. It hurts because some of the people who are enabling this shit are/were friends.

[fromyourashes]

there is absolutely nothing worse. nothing. it destroys lives in ways nothing else can. anytime i encounter anyone who disagrees, i make it a point to never interact with them again because they will bring my life nothing of value.

[talklikelions]

I try to get them to look at it critically like how would you feel if your body- the thing you live in that you SHOULD have control of- was violated? But it never sinks in for them. It infuriates me in a way most things cannot.

[fromyourashes]

for me, i try and get them to understand that it's not a single crime and it doesn't affect one person one time. it's something that will change someone for the rest of their lives, and potentially change entire generations of a family. for me, it destroyed me, my family, and my sons because i raised them differently than i would have had i not dealt with the shit i dealt with. people don't understand that sexual assaults of any kind affect families forever, not just one person on that one day.

and nope, they never get it. in a way, i'm glad they don't because it means they've been lucky in that they haven't been hurt like that. but - because they haven't been hurt like that, they could hurt someone like that. if that makes sense.

[hurtmybones]

I mean the ~enlightened international stans are whistling while onew's promoting just fine

[off_daze]

Yes, their nostalgia is blinding them. I don't think it helps that SM bullied his victim into retracting her statement and changing it up to make it look like it wasn't a big deal. The stans will just listen to what they want to listen to...

[hurtmybones]

it didn't even impact him, it's sad. and I see stans deliberately avoiding mentioning it, especially to ppl now getting into the group/kpop

[off_daze]

Reminds me of that "Where are they now" Buffy post I was in the other day. Like the music and like the group of you want, but don't be in denial about the mess your favs are in. If you don't care, then you don't care. But don't pretend it didn't happen at all. I understand that part of stanning culture is to be completely engrossed in the image of your fav, but it really ignores who they are as people. Everyone is capable of doing messed up things they aren't absolved just cuz they are public figures.

[dior_chic]

Exactly.

[newyorkangst]

I only found out about it on ontd a couple of days ago...