Dita Von Teese speaks regarding abuse allegations against Marilyn Manson

[caramelaffair]

Marilyn Manson's Ex-Wife Dita Von Teese Speaks Out About Abuse Allegations Against the Singer​ https://t.co/no75m8vwep
- People (@people) February 4, 2021
- Says she herself did not get abused (despite her alluding to it in past interviews regarding him

Comments

[musicnkisses]

Awful statement. Saying if she were abused she wouldn’t have married him (so people who are abused make the mistake of staying in those relationships?). Also, “incurred” abuse? I’m going to assume she didn’t use the right word there because incurred implies the victims brought it on themselves.

[dandyxwarhol]

Yeah I sort of get this impression as well... And infidelity and drug abuse, while not always a clear line to emotional abuse, I feel like there is some typically involved. Like you love and trust someone and they repeatedly lie about seeing other people or manipulate you into feeling a certain way about it. Or with drug abuse, if his behaviors that are so bad that you end the marriage, you know he just wasn't like a happy drunk that passes out after drinking a little too much.

[januarysix]

This interview and the quote about "living with mommie dearest" seem to imply he was controlling at some level

http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/news-features/TMG3359949/Educating-Dita.html

There is the comment about how she wasn't able to have any of her things around her at her old house, and the even odder aside: 'I basically lived with Mommie Dearest for six years,' a comment on which she wouldn't be drawn. But the picture remains hazy until Von Teese calls from Seoul.

[mzgrottesca]

there so much gaslighting and emotional abuse involved in situations with chronic cheating but we've been conditioned to view it as normal, it's terrible.

[iburiedjohn]

I mean, she never said he didn’t abuse her, just that the public details of Evan’s abuse didn’t match what happened in her relationship.

[mingemonster]

She might have been trying to say "endured"? but yeah the rest of it is really awful

[rainbows_are_ok]

I don't know, isn't it okay for some people to confidently say "I wouldn't marry someone that physically abused me?" I don't think she was putting anyone down, just saying that she personally wouldn't have married him if it happened.

[iznanassi]

it's completely unnecessary and perpetuates a harmful narrative that victims of abuse are always aware theyre being abused

[la_loony]

It's arrogant to say that tbh, abusers are very manipulative and controlling, it's not that easy to just walk away like she makes it out to be.

[musicnkisses]

Because it makes it sound like walking away from abuse is easy and abuse is readily noticeable. A lot of times people don’t even become abusive until marriage. It comes off as holier than thou to essentially say, “I wouldn’t allow myself to be abused”. Most people don’t.

[coquettishkat]

it’s an oversimplification of so many cases of abuse. if it was as straight forward as you meet a guy and he punches you in the face, no one would date abusers. but abusers are people with multiple dimensions, sometimes for a long time (i’m talking months, maybe half a year, maybe even longer) they are not physically abusive. maybe they’ll be manipulative or mentally abusive, but by then they’ve charmed their way into your life and you just question if it’s really as serious as you think because hey this is someone you love and care for. they’re going through a hard time at school/work/their family life, that’s why they’re being like this. but then eventually something will stress them out and trigger them and they’ll be on edge and the next thing you know, provoked or unprovoked they physically assault you

[sillycucumber2]

I may be going off rails here but I remember previous interviews she did and it def. sounded like he at least emotionally and or verbally abused her. She may be in denial. He may have spiraled to physical with ERW when taking more drugs.

[dandyxwarhol]

Yeah I just agreed about this to someone else above... If you're ending a marriage because of cheating and drug abuse, there is probably a bit of emotional abuse that lead you to that point.

[bossm]

I think that women tolerate psychological abuse more than physical abuse. If you want to keep your man you have to endure it.

[geneforrester]

yeah the word incurred really stuck out to me too and im hoping that she mixed up words or thought it meant something else because...😬