#OscarsSoWhite even BTS: Moses Sumney recalls incident with makeup artist at Academy Awards

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+ Moses Sumney, who in 2018 joined Sufjan Stevens for his live performance of 'Mystery of Love' at the Academy Awards, shared a picture that illustrates what PoC usually face when diversity behind the scenes in the entertainment industry is practically nonexistent.

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[snortingcoke]

granted i don't wear make up often but surely a make up ARTIST should be able to easily tell when something doesn't match your skin?

[eauxsurejan]

Right? I’m kinda baffled by this.

[genbu_no_miko24]

You’d be surprised. I’ve had makeup artist go lower than and darker than my natural shade. I feel some of them let their own biases guide them lol.

[smilofax]

You would think but white makeup artists seem to really struggle with black skin/ never equip their kits with darker shades.

It’s misplaced to make this and #oscarssowhite thing cause you hear this from black public figures everywhere, models, actors, tv presenters who are just trying to get on with their job.
There are numerous accounts of people having hot choclate powder used on their skin because the makeup artist didn’t have Makeup in their shade.

[tequila]

They probably knew it didn’t match but just didn’t care and didn’t bother to find anything deeper. Which is even worse tbh.

[vibeology_e]

This. I feel like pretty much anyone who looks at that picture can tell there's something very wrong with his makeup. No way someone who does makeup professionally looked at that and thought it was their best effort. It's just that was all the effort the MUA was willing to put in.

[urfvrtweapon]

In high school, I took a stage make-up class and my older white woman teacher said she'd go to the make-up counter at different stores and the mua would try to sell her the totally wrong foundations and powders for her skin. The training and education must not be there and most people get their work through connections.

[meranii_raushu]

Makeup artists at stores in my area sometimes look frightful themselves (sorry but everyday makeup shouldn't look like a splotchy halloween mask), no way I'd trust their advice.

[joe_pwnz_pete]

It seems like a real problem esp with our generation.? The women in beauty stores right now legit make me sad because there's a lot of them who didn't look like that before they got the job but I guess feel the need to fall in line with the rest by over-contouring their faces? Every single one has the same plastered Instagram face with the cut crease winged eyeliner, fake eyelashes, and sickly looking sticky lipstick. Idk. It looks genuinely awful to me every time I see it and I know they have to see it too but I guess it doesn't matter as long as it looks good in a selfie? I almost wonder if there's corporate pressure to overdo it like that.

There's a single Ulta employee that sticks out always in my mind because she did her makeup very subtly. Like she still clearly had a lot on, but it was blended and she wasn't wearing super heavy eyeshadow/eyeliner.

[ghastly]

When I worked at Clinique, I was ordered by the floor manager to wear more makeup than I normally do. I've always had good skin & fairly dramatic features (dark eyes/eyebrows/eyelashes & full lips on a very pale face) so I've always kept it minimal.

My floor manager once yelled at me in front of the whole floor that I was clearly too stupid to dress myself in the morning because I didn't wear 3 shades of eyeshadow.

[insomniachobs]

In defence of counter MUAs, a lot of the time it's mandated by the employer - presumably because they think it's an advertisement. Amazingly, despite so much commentary over the years about how often counter staff look like clowns, they don't seem to get that it's off-putting to most women who don't want to wear that amount of make up.

[my_dear_watson7]

I wonder if there are people who walk into the store who appreciate the caked-on look. I personally enjoy it when an employee is wearing a super funky eyeshadow or liner because then I know that they have some confidence in their own look, but the layers and heavy brows/eye makeup/lips is just too much.

[insomniachobs]

ITA. Something cool that shows off some skill or style gives me confidence in them, but when it just looks like they did 10 YouTube tutorials at once applied with a trowel it’s a turn off.

[eatmydustbinns]

I wonder if that's all about to change soon bc I was at Sephora in NYC this weekend, and I thought all the salespeople looked very nice. One girl had this "no-makeup" look, and her skin looked so fantastic that I would've bought anything she suggested me.

[joe_pwnz_pete]

I don't think it's necessarily regional but when I went up north last year I noticed that that particular makeup trend wasn't going as hard as it was in the south. Skincare totally looks like the new trend and I LOVE it.

[tucker]

Beyond just the lightness or darkness of the shade a lot of white makeup artists don’t understand undertones either which can make a huge difference