Tom Cruise: "Top Gun: Maverick" Is A Love Letter To Aviation - CONAN on TBS

Jul 20, 2019 21:03

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sobremarina July 20 2019, 20:19:08 UTC
aviation is a huge thing to scientologists (dc-10s dropping bombs into volcanoes to kill aliens!) so this just makes me uneasy

i wonder what kind of weird scieno shit he made them slip into the plot?

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urfad July 20 2019, 20:21:52 UTC
Is it? I know John Travolta is big into planes, and that ships are a big deal to them...aviation does make sense, though, the more I think of it. What with the aliens and all.

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sobremarina July 20 2019, 20:31:42 UTC
l. ron hubbard was in the navy and was later a licensed glider pilot (couldn't pass the qualifications for powered aircraft, oop). a lot of the ~super secret upper level scientology shit describes alien tech in terms of american ships and planes. its fucking insane and you truly have to be brainwashed to believe it.

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urfad July 20 2019, 20:44:03 UTC
So bizarre. The whole thing is so boggling. Dude couldn't find success in so many areas (science fiction, military, inter-personal relationships) but managed to create a freaking enterprise. Like, he was a horrible person and Scientology is an awful cult, but goddamn if it's not a booming business with tons of ~true believers~ with unwavering loyalty, willing to shell out and do whatever for the cause. It's really remarkable. I mean, it's bad, but it's amazing, you know? Such skillful manipulation and exploitation. It's crazy.

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sobremarina July 20 2019, 20:56:27 UTC
i think it because most cults start out very unorganized with their mentally ill leaders mainly wanting money and attention in a vague way, whereas hubbard (unfortunately) took a lot of notes from his time in the navy and applied that structure to his cult. he recruited lawyers, businessmen, politcians, and even people trained in psychology (fucking hypocrite) from the beginning to make sure they would have protection from the outside and obedience on the inside from the beginning.

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urfad July 20 2019, 21:05:53 UTC
That is such an astute observation! :)

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sobremarina July 20 2019, 21:49:05 UTC
i wasn't saying that pilots are more likely to be in that cult, just that scientologists are more attracted to having it as a hobby and actors in that cult like playing roles where they get to be pilots.

aside from tom, off the top of my head i can think of travolta making his character a pilot in look who's talking too (when the character was a taxi driver before) and jason dohring, who randomly wanted his character on veronica mars to come back as a navy pilot, when it didn't really make sense.

fun fact: the scientology sea org uniform is very similar to the pilot uniforms used in the navy. a very stylish way to serve a billion year slave sentence!

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urfad July 20 2019, 21:54:40 UTC
John also named his son Jett. Pretty sure that's the one who passed away...allegedly because he had epilepsy and that is apparently a psychiatric condition, so can't use meds! But that's just hearsay, of course.

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sobremarina July 20 2019, 23:01:26 UTC
lmao you are being suspiciously defensive while claiming the opposite

crossing that bridge, bb?

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sobremarina July 21 2019, 01:32:00 UTC
you are literally having an argument over things i never said and just seem mad in general that i'm talking shit about scientology while playing the "omg totally not a fan but ur wrong!11" game

they really need to train ya'll better 😂

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urfad July 21 2019, 00:33:56 UTC
No one is denigrating military uniforms, I don't think.

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