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pikapika217 February 20 2019, 04:04:00 UTC
I feel so bad for her and all of this stems from ignorance & jealousy. Leave her alone!!

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analievelyn February 20 2019, 04:05:38 UTC
agreed on all points!

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longslowslide February 20 2019, 04:55:17 UTC
Wanting a fair playing field is not ignorance or jealousy. If Caster has hormone levels a woman would normally have if doping, then they have an unfair advantage that would get others disqualified.

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scullies February 20 2019, 04:58:18 UTC
where do we draw the line when it's an "unfair advantage" she was born with tho ykwim?
like being super tall is also an advantage in some sports, do we bar outliers above a certain height?
i'm not trying to be snarky, I honestly have no idea how they should regulate this

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longslowslide February 20 2019, 05:13:35 UTC
We are talking about testosterone. Women who have been doping are disqualified from competition. There already is a system in place for ranges women are allowed to compete in, I don't see how this is some big mystery to regulate.

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scullies February 20 2019, 05:15:58 UTC
because some women naturally have testosterone outside the normal range without supplementation

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longslowslide February 20 2019, 05:26:38 UTC
Caster obviously has levels that are far outside a range allowed, or there wouldn't be a controversy. If they have levels that a woman would normally have from doping, then there needs to be some sort of regulation in place.

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winter_lace February 20 2019, 08:12:40 UTC
for real. they have to pay for that shit in completely unfair ways

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slaughtermatic February 20 2019, 05:28:34 UTC
no one's been doping tho, so it is some big mystery why you keep repeating that. some women are born with more testosterone for which they pay in every way their entire lives except in this one instance of 1 in a million where someone may get a slight advantage in muscle mass and that's something to cut a line over? because defining "classes" of women based on their hormonal mix is a great idea, it's just like welterwight no prob no offence. lmao fuck hormonally "average" people so much.

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longslowslide February 20 2019, 05:41:57 UTC
Caster obviously has levels that would get all the other women disqualified for doping. If other women would get disqualified, I don't see why it is fair for Caster to compete against them. The advantage Caster has is much larger than "slight" or this wouldn't be a controversy.

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slaughtermatic February 20 2019, 06:16:03 UTC
because she didn't fucking dope??? there is no lawful reason to base regulations on what is happening inside someone's body unless they're the reason for it. it's not an easy, fixable process because someone typed that shit up real quick, it's potentially lethal fucking with your hormones. disregarding that there's no "hyperandrogenic class" to move up to, there is no place for a woman like this to fucking exist. maybe she has an unfair advantage, maybe not but we don't nazi it up like this in any other case and ontd never salivates as much as when they can state you some ~facts about testosterone and trans bone mass m'kay

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teaaet February 20 2019, 06:22:49 UTC
Simone Biles gets to take Ritalin for her ADHD, and has permission because of that medical condition. Any other athlete would get DQ’d for having that drug in their system. Why is that approved, when this woman competing as her natural self is not?

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benihime99 February 20 2019, 09:33:20 UTC
Doping forbidden in sports, genetics are not: comparing the two is simply fallacious
You're basically disqualifying her for something she has no control over
Do we also disqualify runner based on the shape of their feet, the length of their legs, their lung capacity?

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iznanassi February 20 2019, 06:49:35 UTC
thank you

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lovedforaday February 20 2019, 07:38:48 UTC
some women are born with more testosterone for which they pay in every way their entire lives

that is the fucking truth.

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ohmylol February 20 2019, 13:01:05 UTC
But Caster hasn't been doping, her body is like that, how you can compare the 2? So she gets banned because she has a genetical advantage ? Because it that's the case then a lot of athletes should be banned too

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