"In defense of Woody Allen" - an opinion piece by Hadley Freeman

Feb 03, 2018 13:50


Actors are lining up to condemn Woody Allen. Why now? https://t.co/mjE2wPWHCA
- The Guardian (@guardian) February 3, 2018

- summary: "he was never convicted! this is too complex and not for the public to decide!! his fascination with young women does not equal pedophilia!!!"
- says moderation isn't cool nowadays, both political (lmao, i guess she ( Read more... )

#metoo, feminism / social issues, woody allen, mia / ronan farrow, harvey weinstein, colin firth

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dewg February 3 2018, 13:33:33 UTC
Once I read an article about all the situation and everything seems to be really, really weird and fucked up

Woody's relationship with Dylan apparently wasn't sexual, but was categorized as "oddly close"

To be honest, I'm not really sure that he abused her (but I'm not saying she's a liar, there's a possibility that she believes in that but it didn't happened, anyone that saw the scandal at the time and know all the kids was exposed, wouldn't be surprised, in any situation she's still the victim)

But I must say, It's disgusting how Woody get in that relationship with Soon-Yi and say there was no "moral dilemma" at all. And everyone that was alive at the time when all the situation happened can't really say they "knew anything", the story was like everywhere, where do you was living? In the middle of the ocean?

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dewg February 3 2018, 17:47:08 UTC
"Lying" is not the word
You have to think outside the box

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margerydaw_s2 February 3 2018, 16:33:32 UTC
She's gone into detail about it, stop being gross.

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bellwetherr February 3 2018, 17:12:11 UTC
who are you

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wonky February 3 2018, 17:13:45 UTC
You gotta be fucking kidding me with this. You've read Dylan's letter and still think he didn't molest and abuse her? It's thinking like this that lets abuse happen for so long. You're willfully ignorant and need to stop talking.

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dewg February 3 2018, 17:30:08 UTC
I'm not saying she's a LIAR (although this is what YOU are reading), but we barely remember the things that happened the age she describes the abuse, I think it's weird because Woody isn't recidivist, the abuse happened in a very odd moment (the cheating scandal already happened), the abuse happened in the attic (Woody is claustrophobic), and there's also this information that Mia's brother is a convicted pedophile

Everyone only admits two possibilities to defend her ("he's a pedophile") or him ("she's a liar") and don't think that could be a third option

Woody is still a douchebag and his relationship with the daughter of his former girlfriend is still disgusting

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brennans February 3 2018, 18:17:09 UTC
shut up

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how_vintage February 3 2018, 23:04:12 UTC
Lol this

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problematic February 4 2018, 09:45:19 UTC
I wanna reply the same thing. HIS CLAUSTROPHOBIA? fuck off

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you_hermit_crab February 3 2018, 23:58:55 UTC
Trust me, as a victim myself, you do NOT forget that no matter how old you were. I was very young and can recall my molestation in great detail. No one could have put those memories in my head, because I didn’t tell anyone for years. I get that you’re trying to be contrarian, but you’re flat out wrong and just hurting victims of really horrific crimes.

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dewg February 4 2018, 01:18:00 UTC
I'm so sorry this happened to you and I know people are able to remember, I know a story about a girl that was abused at one year old and had constant nightmares about that, also there's people that was abused at 12 and created another story to "make-up" for it (because they couldn't deal with the situation), so I think it's a very complicated thing, I'm not saying that sexual abuses are fantasies and I'm sorry if what I said sounded like this

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kiss_my_undies February 4 2018, 02:07:35 UTC
I absolutely see what you’re saying and agree with you.

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aristobrit February 3 2018, 20:43:45 UTC
Read this and then either apologize or shut up. https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/109216814.html

... is sure to result in yet another spate of false information being spewed across the internet by Woody's defenders ("He was found innocent in court", "He passed a lie detector test by the police", "It was proved that Mia coached Dylan", etc.), so here are highlights from Vanity Fair's Maureen Orth's list of ten actual facts about the original 1992-93 case, just in case any ONTDers would like to be prepared to respond:

3. Allen refused to take a polygraph given by the Connecticut state police. Instead, his own legal team paid someone to give him a private polygraph. The police refused to accept the test as evidence.

4. Allen lost all four court battles connected with the abuse allegations: a lawsuit, a disciplinary charge against the prosecutor, and two appeals - and was ordered to pay more than $1 million in Mia’s legal fees. Judge Elliott Wilk, the presiding ( ... )

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