"In defense of Woody Allen" - an opinion piece by Hadley Freeman

[untxi]

Actors are lining up to condemn Woody Allen. Why now? https://t.co/mjE2wPWHCA
- The Guardian (@guardian) February 3, 2018

- summary: "he was never convicted! this is too complex and not for the public to decide!! his fascination with young women does not equal pedophilia!!!"
- says moderation isn't cool nowadays, both political (lmao, i guess she

Comments

[therearewords]

Who is this? And guardian, why you're giving them space? I don't pay you for this.

[untxi]

she's a p well known american journalist based in the UK & prob one of the most profitable ones they have, bc most of her pieces are clickbait heaven. she's not always this bad, but it's not that rare either.

[therearewords]

Oh lawd.

[verdhandi]

hope somebody shits in her front yard.

[yamair]

The guardian have always had writers who are strangely defensive of child abusers. They've had a bunch of articles about the validity of adult/child relationships etc. They also really dragged their feet during the westminster scandal, the daily mail of all papers had better coverage. And they still won't give any major abuse cases a proper tag.

[untxi]

i still read it bc there's some genuinely good stuff in it, but my opinion on the guardian really changed after the whole jeremy corbyn smear campaign. it was fucking shameless. and i sure af won't pay for it, that's for sure

[kaiserschmarrn]

I didn't follow their coverage of the election, what did they have against Jeremy Corbyn? I thought the Guardian was one of the few pro-Labour papers? I only read them occasionally for international news but I feel like the quality has been declining and there's really an awful lot of clickbait going on.

[untxi]

it happened before he became the leader of the labour party & was basically bc he wasn't "supposed" to win. he doesn't have a typical politician image and demeanor, is considered too radical & to far to the left by many & is clearly someone with a strong, genuine ideology who doesn't flip-flop whenever it's convenient. so the guardian (along with the bbc and other news sources) attacked him for literally anything, created a campaign based on supposed good intentions ("it's not like he doesn't have good policies, but he's just not charismatic enough!" - which is literally ridiculous given how he managed to mobilize so many young people), dug out past 'mistakes' & tried to create huge career-destroying scandals out of them, and went as far as mocking him for not dressing posh enough. needless to say, other candidates most def didn't get the same treatment.

[kaiserschmarrn]

Thanks for the context, that's really ridic and embarrassing as far as political reporting goes. Might it be because many writers at the Guardian are posh? I don't know much about the press in the UK but I still vividly remember reading a long article in the Guardian about the PPE and how this secret (I mean, not really) elite is ruling the media/politics and the article was pretty well researched (though a bit too understanding and lenient imo) and in the end it turned out that the journalist was a PPE graduate or at least Oxbridge graduate himself. Such an eye-opening moment for me.

*Which is to say that while The Guardian might lean more left than The Telegraph, with what you said it seems like they're really just a certain type of faux-leftist.

[saltybagel]

Same, although there was hardly anyone left after that election. Everyone really bit on the smear campaign, it was really disappointing. Watching the entire UK media's opinion change like someone has flipped a switch during the exit polls was... wild. The SECOND it was too late. I'm still side-eyeing so many Corbyn lovers on my Twitter that I know shat all over his chances during the election campaign. I had a little feud going with Skint London loool. I'M NOT BITTER (i'm bitter)

[untxi]

I'm still side-eyeing so many Corbyn lovers on my Twitter that I know shat all over his chances during the election campaign. I'M NOT BITTER (i'm bitter)

lmaooo, i relate to this sfm!!

[yamair]

I'd already begun to side-eye them, but the Corbyn coverage sealed it. It was insane. Especially after they'd given Farage/UKIP so much undeserving exposure.

I also still read some articles, but I won't ever pay for them. Their constant begging for money is funny though. lol

[therearewords]

I'm so angry about how they can have such great articles and such utter shit ones.

[merrymelody]

The Guardian also published this back in '14, about how it's 'miserable' for Woody Allen fans who want to be good people and support child abuse victims, but also ~*Manhattan*~!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/09/woody-allen-dylan-farrow-alleged-sexual-abuse