Robin Thicke Shut Down By Cops in Paula Patton Custody War

[kobewife1]

Robin Thicke Shut Down By Cops in Paula Patton Custody War (VIDEO) https://t.co/gtFy2JEcec
- TMZ (@TMZ) January 14, 2017

- follow up to yesterday post- After Paula was denied by a judge on Thursday (1/12) to limit Robin's custody to daytime monitored visits, Robin called Paula after the hearing to take Julian for the night (which the custody order

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[meranii_raushu]

I know your question's rhetorical, but I've often wondered (but I'm not pretending to be extremely educated on the subject so disagreement is welcome) why misogyny has been such a force throughout human history.

I think at its most biological level, it's because men can't but want to control the means of reproduction. Maybe my mistake is going a bit bio-truthy here, but in all social animals, it's the females that (unless forced otherwise) choose the males they want to mate with, and who get to pass on their genetic material. So traditional and patriarchal human societies devised social structures that severely punished and demonized women who took their sexualities into their own hands instead of letting the husband (chosen by the father or whoever) own it. And today with all the freedom many women have, they're still slut-shamed if they're too open about their desires.

On a cultural level, at least in my country, I feel that masculinity is still very traditionally defined, and it's basically defined as "not being feminine". Being muscular and strong (not weak like women), being courageous and assertive (not quiet and passive like "good" women are supposed to be), not emotional unless it's righteous anger (women are overemotional, and angry women are crazy!). Basically, you're not allowed to be "effeminate", because that's bad, and anything bad is transferred to the female side, where it's essentially considered "good enough" for women, but also looked down upon. I've personally experienced boys and men being told to "not be a pussy/a little girl/pussywhipped etc." so many times, which is insulting to men and women, but the men it's said to rarely get angry at the societal pressure (toxic masculinity), many just transfer their anger to the idea of being female.

[meranii_raushu]

IA and especially with that last part, men came out on top due to physical strength/testosterone/aggression or whatever you want to call it, and have held onto that "might makes right" societal power and justified this superiority in a number of ways, the most blatantly untrue being a supposed mental/moral superiority.

Something that reminds me of: I've been reading up on the Tudors and Henry the 8th lately, he had his 5th wife Catherine Howad beheaded because she supposedly had an affair before she married him, i.e. she wasn't a virgin anymore, and there were rumors (unsubstantiated) that she had an affair during the marriage. Now adultery wasn't illegal in England at the time, but Henry simply made it legal for himself to give the order to have her executed without a trial. So he had this teenager, he married her at 16 and it's not like she realistically could've said no to the obese 50-year-old king, killed, and afterwards the French king wrote to him, regretting the "lewd and naughty [evil] behaviour of the Queen" and telling him that "the lightness of women cannot bend the honour of men". Fucking crazy, isn't it? Poor honorable man, having to kill his evil 5th wife because she supposedly hadn't been a virgin!

Anyway, really enjoyed reading your comment.

[insomniachobs]

Just my speculation, but I reckon Henry's treatment of Anne was less calculated on his part. It was more his advisors (who by that point had all been alienated by her and were wary of her ability to manipulate her husband) preying on him with something well timed. As soon as a few months previously he had still been defending Anne against people who were machinating against her, and this was after the second miscarriage. Some of that may have been "you dare come for my Queen you're obviously not scared enough of me," but really it had been 2 miscarriages in an era when they were incredibly common. She'd had one healthy child, conceived readily enough, and once Henry calmed down a bit there was no real reason at the time to believe she couldn't have a second eventually (even if we now know there was likely a Rh issue or similar). Of course her Catholic enemies/Catherine's supporters believed it was divine retribution, but many of Henry's key advisors by that point were more politically aligned to Anne and wouldn't have bought into that idea until it suited them to do so. But she'd made her last enemy, the advisors decided she had to go, and suddenly they had a new candidate in Jane Seymour who would stifle Anne's ability to wheedle Henry back around. So they went for the lewdest accusations they could come up with - accusations which in their detail could not all have been true as they conflict with other court records. Besides the political headache that was their marriage, he had genuinely been in love with her and incest + witchcraft was basically that era's version of finding out your other half was a serial killer. It hit Henry right in the ego over a woman who was already frustrating him, they painted him a pretty picture of a new wife and regime that would sort all his woes, and so he bought it hook line and sinker.

Catherine I think was all his own ego. The adultery accusation came up, it was then discovered she wasn't the pure virginal rose he'd believed her to be, and he was just pissed that they'd pulled the wool over his eyes and embarrassed him. Nobody would have raised any eyebrow over him just having the marriage annulled (which he could easily have and nobody would have disputed the validity of him doing so like they had the previous Catherine) and sending her off to a convent, but he was raging and vindictive. He didn't only pass a law to make sure he could execute her, he passed one to make sure he could execute his former sister in law - who had either gone mad or was feigning to be mad after being implicated as an accomplice. You weren't able to execute women who were insane at the time, but he had it changed because that's how much of a homicidal fit he was pitching over the situation.

[save_me_xenu]

Not to mention that scientists now think that Anne had so much trouble conceiving because Henry had every STD under the sun and psssed them along to her and set fire to her poor uterus. And through all that she managed to give birth to mother effing Elizabeth I.

[_natsumi_]

After watching a new documentary about Henry's wives , I feel Catherine Howard deserves so much more then basically being called a sluttty teenager . The more I think about her I belive she a sexually abuse victim ; I think she was manipulated to have sex with her music teacher and cousin . Henery was such a weak , insecure, asshole and took out his insecurities on his wives .

[coeurtranquille]

Could you please send me the doc link xx

[dibbydooby]

this is so fascinating to me and you're so articulate about it... do you have any book recs on the subject?? I would love to learn more! (also am I so jaded that this comment reads as sarcastic to me- it's really not lol)

[dibbydooby]

totally! and as it relates (or doesn't) to biology it really interesting to me too!

[headswillroll88]

you're pretty much right, misogyny/patriarchy began with the start of the agricultural revolution which is when people started to try to control the means of production. women produce children, so men eventually sought to control women as well.

[fame]

holy fuck i love you

[muzicnem]

I think at its most biological level, it's because men can't but want to control the means of reproduction

I've literally had a guy (who was pretty misogynistic btw) confirm this in one of his more honest moments. He hated the fact women were the ultimate gatekeepers of sex and was envious of women's ability to give birth.

[patoplastico]

ia

Well said.

[coeurtranquille]

very interesting. Makes one think