Robert DeNiro, Shailene Woodley, Yoko Ono, RuPaul, And More Talk About Trump's Election

[lanadelcame]

Exclusive: Robert De Niro on Donald Trump's election: "I feel like I did after 9/11" https://t.co/DmCl9zYxot pic.twitter.com/DWOMWqeAlH
- Hollywood Reporter (@THR) 12 de novembro de 2016

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[champagnexdream]

My mom decided she's not coming to my house for Thanksgiving because she says I'm disrespecting all my right-wing family by using vulgar language about Trump supporters. I told her they disrespected me and every single woman, Muslim, LGBTQ+ individual, and person of color in this entire country with their vote, even if it was quietly.

Oh and she also told me people want to overthrow RvW because they feel abortion is murder. But when I asked her if a 12-year-old girl was raped whether it be OK for her to get an abortion, she said it was ~different~ and when I brought up the convenience of the murder argument she just started yelling about how my aunt has had four abortions and how it's wrong and still tried to pretend it was about "murder."

How's y'all's fucking night going, ONTD?

[tetrazzinichikn]

I've always found it weird abortion is only murder in certain situations. As dumb as they are, I respect people who think abortions are wrong 100% of the time more than those who think they're okay in certain circumstances. They're murder, or they're not. You can't have it both ways.

[champagnexdream]

Exactly. It's like Voldemort, or Bellatrix Lestrange. Even if they're the worst, you respect that they're ride or die. Fuck Peter Pettigrew.

Sorry for making an HP reference but it's all I have in me rn.

[mammary_glands]

go back to twitter, jk

[champagnexdream]

140 characters is not enough for my rage sis.

[mammary_glands]

rage on sister

[vibeology_e]

I get what you're saying. Those people are wrong but at least I can believe their wrongness comes from a genuine moral belief rather than a gross desire to control and punish women.

[champagnexdream]

Exactly. I can even excuse people who are like "Well if so and so was raped and their life is in danger then yes, abortion." But the ones who preach in being murder but then say a 12-year-old girl's life would be ruined and therefore SHE should be allowed to be an exception?

Nope. Bye. You ain't shit.

[tetrazzinichikn]

Exactly.

[modern_toilet]

there is almost zero way to completely separate the 'genuine moral belief' from the desire to control and punish women. if men were the ones who were able to get pregnant we would have had abortion eons ago, for free, and available on every street corner. you can't EVER take the face that it's about controlling women out of it.

[whysogayprop8]

Oh, sweetie. No.

Its all about control if they are willing to allow it to be law.

Genuine moral obligation is when someone says "I personally would not have an abortion, but I'm not going to dictate what another woman does with her body."

[winegums]

Exactly. You don't like abortion, then don't have one yourself. Why is some other woman's uterus your business?

[kyokomurasaki]

because you're KILLING BABBIES!@!!!!!11 ALL THOSE INNOCENT BABIES WHO WERE TOTALLY GIVEN A SOUL AT CONCEPTION MUST BE SAVED!!!111!

[vibeology_e]

Those are the people I know who feel that way though, but this could be one of those times where my Canadianess makes a difference in this discussion. I grew up going to a Catholic school and I knew so many people who believe that life begins at conception, have no interest in changing Canadian law and think this is a matter between you and God. We used to debate this in school and I'm not friends with my whole class but the people I still know who were on the other side still feel that way but don't see it as a political priority. Last election, they'd post about the environment on Facebook and I'm certain from their posts that most of them voted Liberal.

I agree that in the US, where pro-choice rights are being attacked regularly, the situation is very different.

[ionadelfina]

That's not really an argument if someone truly believes that it's murder though? If you're against murder it's not good enough to say 'well, I just won't murder someone but it's ok if other people do'. To expect people who view it as murder to be ok with that is illogical. ftr I've been pro-choice my entire life.

[whysogayprop8]

Its illogical to believe otherwise.