[DISCUSSION] Gackt on 'Terry Ito's Howl at the Moon' w/English subs

Sep 18, 2011 09:08

Just found this on YT & haven't watched it, yet, but would like to share it nonetheless.
Since I don't know Japanese, I can't say how accurate the videos are. I'll probably comment on itself after having watched it in the comments...
Enjoy ^^

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Sauce: kkuwa13 | Video 1 | Video 2

[translation], topic:samurai spirit & manliness, tv, tv:terii itou no tsuki ni hoero, [discussion]

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b_sim September 18 2011, 08:11:07 UTC
Things I got from this:

Bad experience is better than no experience? Failing is better than never trying? 'Cause it makes us stronger? Even if that isn't what he' means, I think I'll stick to that. ♥

And, aw, not that I need protecting, but I sure as hell would let G protect me any day. I'm not agreeing that it's the man's role to be the protector but hey, if he wants to and he's capable, why not let him and make him feel good about himself?

The only thing I don't quite understand is the "unless good men increase, good women won't increase." What the hell does that even mean?

/sighs. As much as I love his dorky interviews where he talks about being Satan and stuff, I adore these interviews where he's being all intelligent and thinking deep about things.

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mind_cell September 18 2011, 08:31:09 UTC
The only thing I don't quite understand is the "unless good men increase, good women won't increase."Because only a good man make a woman feel womanly and feminine (instead of loading her with the necessity to do EVERYTHING) ^^ I think G's lamenting the fact that men are not men anymore - and he's frigging right. Look at our societies: it's women who do everything. Women work, teach, bring up kids, are active in social life and men are losing their ability to even take decisions and protect their families ( ... )

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anei_no_tsuki September 18 2011, 08:49:04 UTC
This is indeed really a problem. In Japan especially I've raised my eyebrows at men's behavior and mentality though.

While the fact that women gained their rights is a VERY good thing, I feel like it went wrong in Japan somewhere. There is still that 'housewife' image, but not as much as there used to be.
However I feel like some men feel intimidated by women's strength, and either turn into the type we all might have heard from sometimes; a man who doesn't care for women, love, or anything.

The other group that does still care and has his head above the water is a strange group nowadays though. While I am sure there are still 'good' men, if a man says he needs to marry not for love but because he's 'not good at cleaning up after himself' you really have to think about what the hell is going on xD

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b_sim September 18 2011, 11:48:17 UTC
I see. This makes more sense now. I didn't quite get it at first because I didn't understand that G was trying to say that 'good' women = 'feminine' women. So, correct me if I'm wrong, but a good woman should be able to lead, teach, work, etc. but not feel the need to do so? :)

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mind_cell September 18 2011, 12:00:56 UTC
Mmm, first of all don't get me - or G ^_~ - wrong with "feminine". Lots of ppl think feminine means skirts and high heels and other external stuff, but i don't think that's what he implies by any means here.
As for your question - mmm, yes and no, bc i think that, according to G's philosophy as i understand it, a good woman can be be a president of a huge company if she wishes to - but her life partner should be so strong and capable of protecting her that, when she comes home from work, she can become this "good" woman that allows her partner to protect her, make important decisions etc. Her partner must be so good that even if he asks this strong woman to stop - she will, because she trusts him and because he, in his turn, is a "good" man ^^ It's rather idealistic, but the underlying concept is correct and deep.

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mun_chairudo September 18 2011, 11:27:03 UTC
The only thing I don't quite understand is the "unless good men increase, good women won't increase." What the hell does that even mean?

I think this is the key to understanding his philosophy here.
He elaborates on it in the show, too, saying that women became took on male qualities more and more over the course of history because they felt the need to. They felt the need to, according to G, because men were flawed, or to say it more bluntly, too stupid to protect the woman. (So she increasingly felt the need to stand up for herself, become stroner, emancipate, and so on.)

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b_sim September 18 2011, 11:50:32 UTC
No, I got all that. Why I didn't understand initially was because I thought he was saying that women taking on these male qualities was not good. I understand now it's the fact that we had to take on these male qualities that makes the men bad.

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mun_chairudo September 18 2011, 11:57:56 UTC
http://ohgacktyoudidnt.livejournal.com/257441.html?thread=20873377#t20873377

I think I need to rewatch. I don't recall him saying that it was no good for women to take on male qualities...

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b_sim September 18 2011, 13:03:16 UTC
He didn't say that. I thought that that was what he meant. I agree with your comment that you posted. That what makes the men 'bad' is that they have grown so weak that it forces women to take on male qualities.

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mun_chairudo September 18 2011, 18:52:04 UTC

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phililen3 September 20 2011, 10:13:10 UTC
"He elaborates on it in the show, too, saying that women became took on male qualities more and more over the course of history because they felt the need to"

i guess in Japanese culture then since gender roles are culture specific, even in this globalized world.
there are cultures where women would do things that would be seen as mens work in others

i think we could all write a doctoral thesis on this...

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