OGYD's YFC♥POST#8

Aug 01, 2011 14:42

  YFC♥POST#8
August 1, 2011.
Backstage Werk, Munich, Germany.

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k_no_uta August 3 2011, 00:24:06 UTC

Sorry it went past you, since it's really hard to keep an eye on everything when people just come and ignore the line. Maybe you have a look at my huge answer beneath to another person. And maybe you remember that nothing can go well as long as you're not willing to pull along yourself. It's like when GACKT-san makes a crazy purpose and everybody goes "That's impossible" and he goes "How can you know, we didn't try to do it yet!". When is the moment it works and they create something great? It's the moment when every single staff member desides to take responsibility and to seriously try.

So, maybe next time you'll join the people who seriously try. Maybe not. It's up to you in the end, since you are the one to bear the consequences of whatever you do.

Anyway, it would be nice if one day we can all enjoy concerts even before they start together and all work on creating a real YFC family in which everybody can relax a little. That stress between fans is nothing to be proud of, really. You might say I'm blue eyed, say what you want, but if nobody ever dared to follow a vision, where would our civilisation be today? ô_Ô I mean you HAVE to start somewhere, although it's hard at the beginning!

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rakun August 4 2011, 09:12:50 UTC
Sadly, this will probably never happen. There's always arrogant and stupid people who just come "~15 minutes" before entrance and still wanna be front row and are just bitchy and shitty about it. I sometimes ask myself how they can deal with their bad conscience. I personally would feel way too bad and way too sorry for the people who were at the venue at the whole day already - I couldn't just try to sneak in at the front so I could be farther at the front in the concert. And still I think it mostly did work out in Munich - better than at any concert I attended before.

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k_no_uta August 4 2011, 17:44:23 UTC
Right, but my expectations were exceeded with how it went and although there'll be always people like that, to me it's important the majority isn't like that. Besides, I can't understand how it can be fun at a concert if you're not accepted by the people around you. I mean the feeling of family and joining together is one of the main things about a live, no? Sure, you see the band in realy, but how would the mood be without everybody Wouldn't it be tense? *lol* It's so cool when suddenly others hold you as you cry or feel sick and support you so that everybody can enjoy the show together as much as possible. Motivating eachother to cheer and sing...it's really a good feeling. :)

I'm happy you liked the way it went. Thas for commenting.

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satsuko August 6 2011, 13:00:17 UTC
I guess I'll have to agree on your post but for us the main problem was that we didn't even know about the numbers. We got to the venue about 10 minutes before entrance, went through the first entrance and just lined up behind the people standing there. I hadn't been there before so I was slightly confused by where everyone was standing and didn't even know if we stood/walked in the right direction.
Nobody told us there were numbers or how/where to get one so I don't think it was unfair of us to just walk inside with everyone else.

I don't really get why people think numbers are needed, though. We didn't try to get to the front row and we had absolutely no problem with finding a pretty good place even though there were already lots of other people inside.
The main thing really is enjoying the concert together. ^_^

Shouldn't it work out with everyone just being nice and respecting everyone else? Why do we need numbers if everybody walks in normally without pushing others or anything?
And I'm always willing to let people stand in front of me if they're a lot smaller than I am and can't see anything because of me - they just have to ask because I can't always notice what's happening behind me. xD

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k_no_uta August 10 2011, 19:44:54 UTC

There we have the point I guess. You came very late, so confusion couldn't be avoided in your case, but almost everybody who came earlier was informed repeatedly. Since you were not there from mornig you simply can't know why we needed the system. It's because we lined up and wanted to get back to our places in the line without problems and be able to put the line back in order in time, because as waiting long people tend to walk around and groups talking with other groups....a mess starts and with the numbers everybody could return to the line as it was time, that's for it. Besides that unfortunately there are people and were people who came, saw the really properly build line and just walked to the entrance or stood there next to the line as if they belonged there although they didn't. They also partly gave me an impression of "I was caught as missbehaving" after I asked them, watching them for some time, why they placed themselves there instead of heading towards the end of the line and not informing themselves although they saw people comming to the front asking for numbers (because the people in the line said: "look, that person gives numbers, she'll explain"). The people who stayed with their friends though having come muuuuuuuuch later (we're talking of bigger groups here actually) kept standing in the front till the last minute as I started asking people to please prepare for gates opening. I won't say they tried to sneak to the front, but of some I DEFINITELY saw them sneaking to the front although saying "oh, let me stay in the shadow, I'll go to the back anyways, don't want to the front". I even saw people who came through the first entrance and walked past the line there, wanting to stand in between the other people, not belonging to us at all. I just wanted to open my mouth in disbelief to ask them if they had a number or any other good reason for acting like that as the - nicest of all - securities (I had talked to before and FINALLY gotten help from to keep people in order) spoke up to them like "EXCUSE ME? What do you THINK are you DOING, go to the back, please!!!!!!ô_Ô''". As you see there are people like that and not few overthat. But luckily, when confronted with organisation and when talked to as also when facing a tool to prove where they were standing before, those people remamber thir smane and manners and don't try to "cheat". And then there were those hand-full who simply didn't pull along at all.

You're a free person with our own opinion, but I was there from the morning, I was one of those organising and I saw how it went in Cologne and Leipzig (he no. system failed there. Due to reasons I came spontagnously and very late, finding a mess with some few having numbers. The system failed there completely due to lack of a person taking the lead from beginning to end and make sure to put things into order again and again during the whole process, which is a hell of work, but very interesting and people feel good after it succeeds and maybe even helped to relax a little) and I for myself know pretty well why doing the numbers system was needed, good and successfull for many people. It's my personal conclusion.

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