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kayasbluetaco October 28 2008, 21:22:24 UTC
That is the same exact term a friend and I just used when discussing her about 10 minutes ago LOL... off to read the article now :P

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kayasbluetaco October 28 2008, 21:26:28 UTC
Well, the saving grace in all this, is by 2012, enough people (including a majority of Dems) will know enough to stay clear of her I think...

Scary stuff... she's loved by whack jobs too, it seems...

There is a really really small part of me that feels sort of bad for McCain (not bad enough that I would ever want him to win or anything LOL - poor guy just has no idea WTF what hit him.)

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tigress666 October 28 2008, 21:42:53 UTC
I dunno, it seems the far right whackos seem to absolutely love her. Hopefully by 2012 they will have lost control over the Republican party or at least realize they won't get much of a chance of winning if they choose her.

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langenoire October 28 2008, 21:43:25 UTC
Pssh. She isn't anyone's fault but his. He should have tried standing his ground and picking someone he truly knew could help lead the country, like Mittens or Pawlenty. Instead he went for the pandering accessory Veep Barbie: dress her up, pull her strings and watch her go!

I hope all this wangsting in the party means that the Republicans have given up. We'd be in a hot messs with a democratic congress and a fractured exective branch who no one likes. They've burned bridges with half the republicans, at least, and the entire rest of the country. Good luck leading with that kind of coalition.

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tigress666 October 28 2008, 21:46:36 UTC
I've come to dislike him over the past few weeks (I honestly didn't dislike him too much until he started the smear campaigns. I mean I didn't want him winning after he picked Palin but before Palin I just was leery that he'd just do what the far right wanted him to but I wasn't sure and I had thought that he probably was a good person once. And after Palin I didn't want Palin as VP. It wasn't until he started this really negative campaign added with reading an article that was skeptical he ever was a good person that I started disliking him).

That being said, I still dislike Palin far worse and am disgusted with how she's treating her running mate who she's supposed to be helping (it's obvious that she's just using him and at this point has decided he's useless) I too hope he rips her a new one when it's no longer a bad idea to put on pretenses of getting along.

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pinkpolarity October 28 2008, 22:27:55 UTC
I think when McCain proposed Lieberman and was told the base would desert in droves, that he just rolled over at that moment and gave up the ghost. 2000-era McCain would have fought back. 2008-era McCain didn't have enough fight left in him. He's a shell of a person, now, so greatly diminished in honor and standing that it's a wonder he's still opaque.

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tigress666 October 28 2008, 21:47:26 UTC
Oddly I do feel sorry for him even though I completely agree with you.

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cieldumort October 28 2008, 22:07:19 UTC
Or, was it the other way around in 2000, and now we have come to know the real McCain over these last 8 years?

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pinkpolarity October 28 2008, 22:31:46 UTC
I think there's always been a contest between ambition and honor in McCain, but I really do think something has changed in him. Swanning around is classic McCain, some Republicans said that in 2000 "like a modern Narcissus, he saw his face in a camera and it was good". But I think something broke in him between then and now, and I think the break point was the veep choice. I believe it was at that moment when he realized that he wasn't in charge of his own campaign and he never would be-- and that terrifies me, because it means that even more so than GWB there wouldn't even be the pretense that the handlers weren't running the show.

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