The Problem with Being a Christian Liberal

[nytekit]

A few things do come up, but for me it always comes down to one thing: the loudest Christians are also the ones who are the most conservative and/or hateful. I didn't just use "and" because the two don't have to go together but when it's in the media, it often does. People attacking abortion clinics, pastors burning the holy books of other

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[hcolleen]

Strictly speaking, going only by the gospels, which is the only record of what Christ said we have (Christian means Christ like, nothing else), Churches should not be populated by the masses, should not take political stands, should not become rich, should not be in government but should call the government and its agents to task when they are not honestly carrying out their duties. Jesus is adamantly against all of these. He also wasn't discriminatory. Want support for all of these?

"God has chosen the weak, the poor, the few to confound the strong, the rich and the many."
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven."
The story of the tax collector Zaccheus
He chose the woman by the well (who was there at midday instead of morning because the other women in the village discriminated against her and it was the only time she could go), he told of the Good Samaritan (Jews and Samaritans hated each other and yet the Samaritan helped the Jewish man that was mugged rather than the Pharisee and Rabbi [church officials]), he said love was the greatest commandment and that perfect love casts out all fear and that we are to love as we are loved by him.

Thus, Jesus would support LGBT rights and equality for all.

And, given I haven't studied in 15 years and can still bring up more examples than those who wanna use the bible against equal rights.

Also, keep in mind, Paul was a Pharisee. It was in his vested interest, and he had been taught his entire life, that the Law was the only way to live. Jesus said he fulfilled the law and replaced it with love. I kinda think Paul was one of the worst things to happen to early Christianity. It was also bad for it to become the religion of state.

Anyways, I'll stop now.

[nytekit]

*applause*

I agree with you about about it becoming the religion of state. It made it so politicized you can barely tell the two apart (the belief part and the politics part).

You'll also notice I put "traditional marriage" in quotes in the post because traditional Biblical marriage is not what they think it is. I may be incorrect, but I don't think our current understanding of marriage was even mentioned until the New Testament. So let's try that excuse again.

[hcolleen]

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/opinion/article/Traditional-marriage-has-changed-a-lot-1196563.php an interesting article for you. "Traditional marriage" is both on the decline and has only been around for about a century.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20040329&slug=marriagehistory29m why historians hate the words 'traditional marriage' (hint: when and where?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage the fount of all knowledge (read what Luther thought of marriage).