On why George R.R. Martin is wrong: No Awarding the slate

[nwhyte]

When I saw the domination of this year's Hugo finalists by a slate of works nominated by a misogynist racist and his colluders, my immediate reaction was that I should vote "No Award" ahead of every one of their nominations, no questions asked or quarter given. (I was not alone.)

There has been some debate about this in the last week. Notably,

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[naomikritzer]

I spent way too much time yesterday reading blog posts from Larry Correia, John C. Wright, Sarah Hoyt, and Brad Torgersen, because their claim that "oh gosh, why do people hold us responsible for Vox Day when he had nothing to do with the Sad Puppy slate?" seemed so utterly disingenuous.

Correia, Wright, Hoyt, and Day all identify themselves as members of the "Evil League of Evil," ELoE, and refer to that group as having spent a lot of time discussing the nominees. Brad Torgersen says "we" when talking about the picks, not "I." So their handwringing over the conflation of the Sad and Rabid Puppy slates, and their similar handwringing over being tarred with Vox Day's reputation, just seems like unmitigated bullshit to me. They are close associates. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. Lie down with vitriolic, bile-spewing misogynistic racists, and yeah, people will assume -- legitimately -- that you're okay with being associated with vitriolic, bile-spewing, misogynistic racism. VD is in a league of his own, notorious for such charming stances as defending the murder attempt against Malala Yousafzai; he's got the sort of opinions that most people do not invite into their living room, virtual or otherwise.

[nwhyte]

They are caught in a bind of their own making. The fact is that Beale's slate was more successful than Torgerson's, and Torgerson's benefited from some spillover Beale votes. So now Torgerson and Correia are trying to claim credit for Beale's success while simultaneously realising that they should have distanced themselves some time back. Also their unedifying and unsuccessful attempts to call off their supporters' attacks on Tor are grimly amusing. You reap what you sow.

[daveon]

Yes I wonder if Wright is starting to feel nervous about the Tor stuff, given he's also signed with another publisher publicly trashing them and one of their people?

Couldn't happen to a nicer person and all that.