Lying eurosceptics

[nwhyte]

Someone asked me recently about the claims made by "No2EU - Yes to Democracy", a eurosceptic group (supported by the RMT, one of the larger British trade unions) running in the coming European elections.

I had a look at the site, concentrating in particular on the page about EU foreign policy, which is my particular area of interest. I was

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[sammywol]

Welcome to the world of the Lisbon Treaty debate in Ireland. I felt desperately sorry for the pro-treaty spokespeople. I mean many of them were doing a thoroughly ham fisted job on their own but the rest of them were just left in the dust by the series of 'say whatever you bloody well like' lies that poured from the various anti-treaty factions. No sooner would they counter one egregious falsehood than they would come up with two or three more, sometimes in the same paragraph. It was worse than debating evolution with a creationist. By the time the vote came round they had people convinced that the Lisbon Treaty would bring in abortion, conscription, forced immigration, EU-wide taxation, and probably even a total ban on Guinness and ice cream. And my head aches at the thought that we will have to do it all again!

politics...

[applez]

"Don't let the facts get in the way of an argument."

[hedgetrimmer]

"which is not an EU document, not a Constitution"

It is an EU Council document, is it not?

[nwhyte]

C'mon, Colm, I shouldn't have to tell you the difference between the Council of Europe and the European Council!!!!

[hedgetrimmer]

hehe...just pointing out the potential confusion in symantics and seeing would you bite :)