a literary conversation.

Mar 09, 2003 22:05

Heyseusmarimba: I fucking HATE "The Cacher in the Rye"
Wheatstack123: yes....why do you hate catcher in the rye?
Heyseusmarimba: Because its poorly written
Heyseusmarimba: And boring
Wheatstack123: I don't think so
Wheatstack123: your opinion though, so whatever
Heyseusmarimba: And because i was told for years that it was genius and that i would love it, that tends to destroy novels for me.
Heyseusmarimba: Plus i hate Salinger's style
Heyseusmarimba: I can smell Jockishness in the way he writes.
Wheatstack123: does that matter especially?
Heyseusmarimba: For an art faschist like me, yes
Wheatstack123: I see
Heyseusmarimba: And i fucking hate Holden Caufield
Heyseusmarimba: I wish i could wear a giant sign that announced my irrational hatred of almost all american literature.
Wheatstack123: hmmm...it does seem rather irrational
Heyseusmarimba: I really do hate just about everything but stephen King and the Beatnics and Kurt Vonnegut and Bukowski
Wheatstack123: kerouac?
Heyseusmarimba: Yes, i do love Kerouac, except "On The Road" which i hate.
Wheatstack123: not one of his finer works
Heyseusmarimba: not at all, and plus its considered Americana. I hate americana
Heyseusmarimba: because i hate "America"
Wheatstack123: I see
Wheatstack123: you hate bradbury?
Heyseusmarimba: No, He's an exception to the americana rule.
Heyseusmarimba: he's sci fi/ horror. Doesn't count
Heyseusmarimba: Sci Fi/ horror is genre fiction, doesn't count
Heyseusmarimba: I'm talking the straight forward shit.
Wheatstack123: yeah
Heyseusmarimba: yeah.
Wheatstack123: but you can not read something wicked this way comes and tell me there isn't an element of americana in that
Heyseusmarimba: There is, but its the dark side of americana, the stuff thats wierd and twisted and perverse. I like that stuff
Heyseusmarimba: Its the normal americana, like cow boys and shit that i fucking hate
Wheatstack123: the idealized kind of sugar coated american shit?
Heyseusmarimba: Yes
Heyseusmarimba: I fucking hate that
Heyseusmarimba: I hate the whole "AMERICA" myth
Heyseusmarimba: all the bullshit you hear in Kindergarten,
Wheatstack123: I have this book of photography by this guy who's first name is frank, but his last name escapes me. Its all 1950's stuff and its a really raw, straight forward america, broken down cars, black people working terrible jobs and stuff
Heyseusmarimba: That shit i like, that shit is honest
Wheatstack123: yes
Wheatstack123: its a really great book
Heyseusmarimba: its the bright happy shit i hate
Wheatstack123: the cowboys and the baseball games and the apple pie and all the tools that look like charlie chaplin and the land of the free and home of the brave etc. etc.3
Heyseusmarimba: yes
Heyseusmarimba: That shit is lies and propoganda
Wheatstack123: indeed it is
Heyseusmarimba: Yep
Heyseusmarimba: When i over throw this society, that stuff will be used to fuel the bonfires that the survivors use for heat
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