Comments | np_complete: Watched WoM

np_complete

Watched WoM

Nov 17, 2009 22:58

Not sure I have a reaction, frankly.

Yes, that's really all I have to say about it right now. ( Except: )

Comments 8

papilio_luna November 18 2009, 04:00:05 UTC

Well I think it's less about it being important for the benefit of humanity and more about the Daleks also being sensitive to timelines and knowing what are and are not fixed points. Though it could just as easily be just a coincidence, that the Dalek got called back to the Crucible right at that moment. The script doesn't actually say one way or the other, it's just implied.

platypus November 18 2009, 04:32:13 UTC

If the Daleks had succeeded in destroying REALITY ITSELF in 2008/2009 (even the production team doesn't seem sure of their timeline anymore), it wouldn't have mattered what her granddaughter did, and the fixed point would have to come unfixed. I am trying not to think too hard about that.

The Daleks actually weren't killing every human they came across in JE, though. They were rounding plenty of them up for experiments as well, and it would take a lot of 'exterminate's to deal with six billion people. So maybe it just saw no reason to kill that particular human.

papilio_luna November 18 2009, 13:22:16 UTC

Yeah, I think that whole scene was much less about Adelaide's importance to humanity/the timeline/whatever than about a character point for her: she was almost killed by a Dalek, both of her parents were killed by the Daleks, but the experience did not drive her to seek vengeance but rather inspired her to achieve, for the sake of humanity.

np_complete November 19 2009, 02:19:42 UTC

Yes, I guess that's the important thing about that scene -- what an extraordinary person Adelaide is. It makes it seem even more of a shame that she has to die. But it also makes it believable that she can make the choice she does.

earlgreytea68 November 18 2009, 13:12:46 UTC

Yeah, I haven't watched it--it seems to violate by A LOT my policy against unhappy fiction--but that's a story point that confused me, too. Also, I guess I had never really realized that the Daleks knew about timelines or were all that concerned about them.

np_complete November 19 2009, 02:21:17 UTC

Also, I guess I had never really realized that the Daleks knew about timelines or were all that concerned about them.

Yeah! They barely have a sense of self-preservation, let alone an interest in preserving the integrity of the timelines!

glory_jean November 19 2009, 07:13:42 UTC

I'd have to agree that it was Adalaide's perception that was important not the reality. The Daleks wanted to end reality, I don't think the time lines were of much use to them.

capemaynuts November 19 2009, 15:37:30 UTC

But Dalek Caan (he's the crazy one, right?) He had looked through all of space and time and had actually plotted the downfall of Davros. So if all the Daleks were being controlled by some extent by Caan, then the Dalek would not kill her. Make any sense?