[Voice] | They totally should and Robert would love thatsemper_cogitansMarch 28 2011, 23:35:22 UTC
The Malnossian technology seems, from my understanding, quite advanced. I daresay it rivals Terran technology in many aspects. It is a pity that they are too selfish and imbecilic to allow us access to it or to include us in its usage, else we might be able to derive even more potent technologies from the union.
Terran technology is capable of some apparent-faster-than-light travel spacewise via transporter technology, but the energy costs are extremely high and thus it is not often relied upon. As a result, most of the exploration of the surrounding solar systems is done with automated probes and dropships rather than with commandeered craft. But the method that the Malnosso use to take us from our planets seems much different from that. [If it is Luceti itself - and Robert doesn't know that for sure, yet, despite thinking of the idea - then it could even be some kind of physics aberration.]
Please feel free to ask questions. I am appreciative to see somebody with an enquiring mind.
[Robert can't help but nod at this.] I thoroughly agree on that last point. However, I have been rather forced to accept magic, considering it was quite plainly cast in front of my face. My friend, Mr. Sprensonne, who cast said magic, informed me that there are principles and mechanisms behind magic; on that note, I am inclined to think that magic is a subset of physics, perhaps specifically a force such as weak or strong nuclear force, or electromagnetism. On my thesis of magic, which I have been developing in the three months I have been at Luceti - though really only for the latter two months of said - I have noticed some very interesting parallels between different worlds' paranormal physics.
If you would like, I would be most willing to share my progress on this research. It is... illuminating. But I understand if it seems difficult to understand. My own world has no such paranormal phenomena, whatsoever.
[Voice] | So would Bones man.notsofunnybonesMarch 30 2011, 04:51:42 UTC
I see. I would like to speak to you more on this subject on a later date, but the more pressing matter would be of inquiring more of the idea of "magic".
Again, it seems far fetched to believe in the mumbo-jumbo that will be tossed at me, I have no doubt that the "magic" that I will see will be easily explained by particles and am looking forwards to telling them as such. Because it's hardly realistic that they "conjure" this magic from thin air and it will be interesting to see what negative effects that it could cause. For one, the law of 'for every positive reaction there is one of a equal and opposite reaction'. The energy they would "conjure" would have to come from somewhere, do you not agree?
[Voice] | I can see this becoming a beautiful friendshipsemper_cogitansMarch 30 2011, 06:07:54 UTC
Believe me, I felt exactly the same way you did before coming here. Terran physics have been essentially demonstrated to not have such paranormal things as magic. [Robert pauses after a moment before amending his statement.] Well, to be fair, one cannot actually prove a negative - but the evidence for naturalistic explanations is so conclusive, extensive and solid that it would be insanity to ignore it.
And yet the process not only exists here, but is repeatable, in laboratory conditions. With the recent acquisition of my nanocomputer here in Luceti - and this is the one good thing the Malnosso have seen fit to do for me - I hope to make some real insights as to what exactly magic is comprised of here.
[Thoughtfully, Robert considers Temperance's statements.] You would be absolutely correct, at least for Terran physics. The laws of conservation of matter and energy would in fact prevent energy from manifesting from ostensibly nowhere. However, it appears that much of the magic in these worlds has its own dedicated subset of energy, somewhat like electromagnetism. Though I cannot quite tell you how this energy is actually put to use - this is a question I hope to answer with further research - it appears that magic users can somehow draw upon these sources of energy.
Physics here is not the same as physics on Terra, and, presumably, physics in your world as well. [Temperance, you have just made Robert very happy. If Temperance's world's physics are completely free of paranormal things, then she'll be the first person who can actually sympathize with him.]
I actually performed an experiment here in Luceti with a magic-using friend. While one experiment is not enough data to reach a solid conclusion, it has nevertheless been most illuminating, and I am certain he would assist me in demonstrating it again in the future if you would be so interested. Perhaps I could even take a holovideo of the event...
[Voice] | I completely agree. However. Come IM me, I'm Playthespades on AIM. :3notsofunnybonesMarch 30 2011, 06:29:34 UTC
Well, considering the new information I've been given, perhaps the negative is forced upon a different dimension. I mean, they are drawing on some "strange" form of energy, and it has been proven that there is a multiverse where I am; though I was not so-sure of it until now.
It is very possible that the energy they called upon is from one of those multiverses, causing much damage to it. A yin-yang cycle, perhaps? For every world that uses "magic" the other akin to it is forced to go through negative reactions from the "magic" being drawn from their world. Opposites, where one draws off of the other until it is no more, in reaction, causing the other world to collaspe as well. In essence, for every world that is extremely advanced in technology; the other is drawn to use the other as it's "magic source".
Hypothetically, of course; it is not a very pretty picture, if I were to be very honest. But the "magic" needs to come from somewhere. But, I am curious as to hearing what other people would say to knowing that this is possibly the case to what is happening; because, as I stated. For every action there is a positive or negative reaction.
[This is something that Robert hadn't really considered but doesn't find particularly plausible.]
Well, in that situation, one would have to explain how one can draw energy from an entirely different multiversion, if one doesn't have any connection to said multiversion. What I assume - and have one set of experimental results to support the hypothesis, so far - is that the energy is being drawn from the home multiversion of the people here. If what I found with Mr. Sprensonne and myself is true of all Lucetians, then Lucetians keep their own physics when they are taken here. [Or drawn here. Though he won't say that over the journals.] By extension, that would seem to include access to whatever energy that powers their abilities.
The only exception to this is the Luceti physics itself, which appear to exist regardless of what individual interacts with it. [He pauses a moment.]
My own world is an extremely technological, rational one, and there has never been any indication of any damage that would be caused from a cycle like this.
However, it's an interesting hypothesis... But I'd think that it would be more logical that it would be bound to the magic-using individuals in question, rather than to an entire multiverse. Otherwise it would make little sense how magic would continue to work here in Luceti, unless somehow it was being drawn from somewhere.
... I could go into more detail, but some things are better discussed off-journal, for... various reasons. [The one time Robert has a social filter...]
Terran technology is capable of some apparent-faster-than-light travel spacewise via transporter technology, but the energy costs are extremely high and thus it is not often relied upon. As a result, most of the exploration of the surrounding solar systems is done with automated probes and dropships rather than with commandeered craft. But the method that the Malnosso use to take us from our planets seems much different from that. [If it is Luceti itself - and Robert doesn't know that for sure, yet, despite thinking of the idea - then it could even be some kind of physics aberration.]
Please feel free to ask questions. I am appreciative to see somebody with an enquiring mind.
[Robert can't help but nod at this.] I thoroughly agree on that last point. However, I have been rather forced to accept magic, considering it was quite plainly cast in front of my face. My friend, Mr. Sprensonne, who cast said magic, informed me that there are principles and mechanisms behind magic; on that note, I am inclined to think that magic is a subset of physics, perhaps specifically a force such as weak or strong nuclear force, or electromagnetism. On my thesis of magic, which I have been developing in the three months I have been at Luceti - though really only for the latter two months of said - I have noticed some very interesting parallels between different worlds' paranormal physics.
If you would like, I would be most willing to share my progress on this research. It is... illuminating. But I understand if it seems difficult to understand. My own world has no such paranormal phenomena, whatsoever.
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Again, it seems far fetched to believe in the mumbo-jumbo that will be tossed at me, I have no doubt that the "magic" that I will see will be easily explained by particles and am looking forwards to telling them as such. Because it's hardly realistic that they "conjure" this magic from thin air and it will be interesting to see what negative effects that it could cause. For one, the law of 'for every positive reaction there is one of a equal and opposite reaction'. The energy they would "conjure" would have to come from somewhere, do you not agree?
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And yet the process not only exists here, but is repeatable, in laboratory conditions. With the recent acquisition of my nanocomputer here in Luceti - and this is the one good thing the Malnosso have seen fit to do for me - I hope to make some real insights as to what exactly magic is comprised of here.
[Thoughtfully, Robert considers Temperance's statements.] You would be absolutely correct, at least for Terran physics. The laws of conservation of matter and energy would in fact prevent energy from manifesting from ostensibly nowhere. However, it appears that much of the magic in these worlds has its own dedicated subset of energy, somewhat like electromagnetism. Though I cannot quite tell you how this energy is actually put to use - this is a question I hope to answer with further research - it appears that magic users can somehow draw upon these sources of energy.
Physics here is not the same as physics on Terra, and, presumably, physics in your world as well. [Temperance, you have just made Robert very happy. If Temperance's world's physics are completely free of paranormal things, then she'll be the first person who can actually sympathize with him.]
I actually performed an experiment here in Luceti with a magic-using friend. While one experiment is not enough data to reach a solid conclusion, it has nevertheless been most illuminating, and I am certain he would assist me in demonstrating it again in the future if you would be so interested. Perhaps I could even take a holovideo of the event...
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It is very possible that the energy they called upon is from one of those multiverses, causing much damage to it. A yin-yang cycle, perhaps? For every world that uses "magic" the other akin to it is forced to go through negative reactions from the "magic" being drawn from their world. Opposites, where one draws off of the other until it is no more, in reaction, causing the other world to collaspe as well. In essence, for every world that is extremely advanced in technology; the other is drawn to use the other as it's "magic source".
Hypothetically, of course; it is not a very pretty picture, if I were to be very honest. But the "magic" needs to come from somewhere. But, I am curious as to hearing what other people would say to knowing that this is possibly the case to what is happening; because, as I stated. For every action there is a positive or negative reaction.
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Well, in that situation, one would have to explain how one can draw energy from an entirely different multiversion, if one doesn't have any connection to said multiversion. What I assume - and have one set of experimental results to support the hypothesis, so far - is that the energy is being drawn from the home multiversion of the people here. If what I found with Mr. Sprensonne and myself is true of all Lucetians, then Lucetians keep their own physics when they are taken here. [Or drawn here. Though he won't say that over the journals.] By extension, that would seem to include access to whatever energy that powers their abilities.
The only exception to this is the Luceti physics itself, which appear to exist regardless of what individual interacts with it. [He pauses a moment.]
My own world is an extremely technological, rational one, and there has never been any indication of any damage that would be caused from a cycle like this.
However, it's an interesting hypothesis... But I'd think that it would be more logical that it would be bound to the magic-using individuals in question, rather than to an entire multiverse. Otherwise it would make little sense how magic would continue to work here in Luceti, unless somehow it was being drawn from somewhere.
... I could go into more detail, but some things are better discussed off-journal, for... various reasons. [The one time Robert has a social filter...]
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