Fractal Wrongness
I am going to define a word that I will be using:
Fractal Wrongness (n) - Where any aspect of your world-view, upon any amount of inspection, is found to be just as wrong as your entire world-view. The beliefs at any resolution and magnification are found to be just as wrong as the entire world-view.
I encountered someone like this the other day. I debated with them over a bunch of stuff. Now, I'm the guy that likes to get smug about pointing out logical fallacies in your argument, but I didn't have to because anyone with half a brain could see it. Also, when I did say his argument wasn't logical he said "logic is useless, and hasn't nothing for nobody." Really? Logic? Useless? The basic rule of logic is that something that contradicts itself cannot exist. A square circle or cold fire. Logic is what keeps our society, and society in general functioning properly. It is what allowed us to organize anything in the first place. The smartest guy makes decisions. The weak guy doesn't fight wars. The stupid guy doesn't teach children (though all of these have been ignored at one point or another).
But this person was an anarchist, they were arguing their point. I was refuting their points. I finally posed the question, "In an anarchist society, how do you build roads?" A very simple question. He just could not answer that. He tried, and his answer was along the lines of "We'll cooperate and pool our resources and stuff". Really? Why? People don't cooperate now, why would they suddenly do so without a government? I don't really feel like talking about this again because I debated with this guy for two hours.
But one thing I got from this exchange. I found this individual to be fractally wrong. Every one of his beliefs had severe problems with it, so in essence they were wrong. You've encountered these people, and you very well might be one of these people. You are fractally wrong if you haven't thought out your position well enough so that as soon as anyone puts any scrutiny on it you have to shut down and not talk about it anymore. If you don't understand your position, you probably shouldn't be having it.
If you encounter someone who is fractally wrong, just state your position once. Then leave. There is no arguing with these people. If their belief system is so flawed, then they probably suck at basic reasoning. No, they do suck at basic reasoning. And thusly their form of debate is seeing who can state their position the loudest and the most times.
So say it once, and calmly. They'll go off, and probably won't stop anytime soon. After they are done with their shouting, all you have to say is this, "Cool story bro". Disrespectful, but funny as hell, especially if the other person is a little out of breath. They'll either shut up, but if they don't they'll get angrier and begin shouting again. Either way, calmly smile and leave the room.
Sorry if I am disrespecting your right to be fractally wrong, but if you are fractally wrong, you probably are too stupid to garnish my respect anyway.
Fractal Wrongness (n) - Where any aspect of your world-view, upon any amount of inspection, is found to be just as wrong as your entire world-view. The beliefs at any resolution and magnification are found to be just as wrong as the entire world-view.
I encountered someone like this the other day. I debated with them over a bunch of stuff. Now, I'm the guy that likes to get smug about pointing out logical fallacies in your argument, but I didn't have to because anyone with half a brain could see it. Also, when I did say his argument wasn't logical he said "logic is useless, and hasn't nothing for nobody." Really? Logic? Useless? The basic rule of logic is that something that contradicts itself cannot exist. A square circle or cold fire. Logic is what keeps our society, and society in general functioning properly. It is what allowed us to organize anything in the first place. The smartest guy makes decisions. The weak guy doesn't fight wars. The stupid guy doesn't teach children (though all of these have been ignored at one point or another).
But this person was an anarchist, they were arguing their point. I was refuting their points. I finally posed the question, "In an anarchist society, how do you build roads?" A very simple question. He just could not answer that. He tried, and his answer was along the lines of "We'll cooperate and pool our resources and stuff". Really? Why? People don't cooperate now, why would they suddenly do so without a government? I don't really feel like talking about this again because I debated with this guy for two hours.
But one thing I got from this exchange. I found this individual to be fractally wrong. Every one of his beliefs had severe problems with it, so in essence they were wrong. You've encountered these people, and you very well might be one of these people. You are fractally wrong if you haven't thought out your position well enough so that as soon as anyone puts any scrutiny on it you have to shut down and not talk about it anymore. If you don't understand your position, you probably shouldn't be having it.
If you encounter someone who is fractally wrong, just state your position once. Then leave. There is no arguing with these people. If their belief system is so flawed, then they probably suck at basic reasoning. No, they do suck at basic reasoning. And thusly their form of debate is seeing who can state their position the loudest and the most times.
So say it once, and calmly. They'll go off, and probably won't stop anytime soon. After they are done with their shouting, all you have to say is this, "Cool story bro". Disrespectful, but funny as hell, especially if the other person is a little out of breath. They'll either shut up, but if they don't they'll get angrier and begin shouting again. Either way, calmly smile and leave the room.
Sorry if I am disrespecting your right to be fractally wrong, but if you are fractally wrong, you probably are too stupid to garnish my respect anyway.