Losing another person from the writers' group

Mar 01, 2014 16:58

A little over a year after we had to toss the other person out, a similar scenario played out again. This guy had come from the group that formed at the library, which also featured the other person we had ejected who migrated there. While he had a good understanding of spelling, punctuation, and grammar, he lacked story structure and character ( Read more... )

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real_skeptic March 2 2014, 07:32:19 UTC
Wait a second, wouldn't that mean that he has rapist tendencies himself, given that you said his protagonist is basically himself? I wonder how is wife is.

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nolawitch March 2 2014, 17:13:00 UTC
That creeped me out too. He's one of those super Christian types so he's probably just barely keeping his antisocial tendencies in check to ensure he goes to heaven when he dies. I never met his wife. I hope she's not as insipid as he wrote the character based on her.

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saminz March 2 2014, 09:15:50 UTC
Good riddance to Mr. Dick ;-).

I sometimes wonder how people get to be this way. So convinced that they're infallible that they even join groups without even considering that everyone else might be a bit more serious or knowledgeable than them.
It's what put me off my philosophy class, as well.

One can't help noticing that those are pretty much always males...

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nolawitch March 2 2014, 17:26:19 UTC
The more I learn about narcissists, I realize they can't help it. Knowing that doesn't make dealing with them any easier. They shouldn't be encouraged to indulge their narcissistic tendencies, but there's little help for them aside from behavior modification therapy.

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voxwoman March 3 2014, 13:05:34 UTC
Oh, there are female narcissists. I know one personally, and I stay as far away from her as I possibly can.

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nightwind292 March 2 2014, 21:29:26 UTC
I'm rather curious about the test used to detect or deflect such folks.

My big writing problem is dialog, I just can't make it lifelike.

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nolawitch March 2 2014, 22:06:02 UTC
We're going to make them submit a sample of their work to a limited critique and return it with revisions. If they can't do that from the outset, they won't last.

Considering that four of us have come through the group with traditionally published works and one guy self-published, I think our track record is better than some newbie who hadn't ever had as much as a magazine article published.

The trick to writing good dialog is to read it aloud to yourself. If it sounds weird, rewrite it until it sounds natural. One of my other writer friends suggested that technique. It works pretty well for me.

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voxwoman March 3 2014, 13:06:51 UTC
Is there any way someone can join your group and participate remotely? (Not that I need another thing to be involved in)

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nolawitch March 3 2014, 13:53:43 UTC
No, sorry. We haven't figured out how to Skype people in and keep the critique format the way it is. I would love to be able to do that too when I'm off on my business trips.

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