I know Noah thought Brian kissed Luke but even if he thought that was the case and that the kiss was unwelcome ... I'm sorry, a kiss does not qualify as as physical violence
I totally disagree with that part. Kissing someone against their will is TOTALLY a form of violence... it's not rape or anything like that, but it is absolutely on the continuum of behavior that leads to rape.
So, because of that, IF Noah truly believed that Brian was the one kissing Luke, and that it was against Luke's will, and that it was the third or fourth time it had happened, I would have exactly zero problem with Noah decking Brian for it. In fact, I would applaud it.
But that's a lot of "ifs" and I don't actually believe any of them are true. I think you're probably right in the comment you made below about how Noah would have punched Brian whether he believed Luke was a willing participant in the kiss or not, and that he might have punched him harder if he thought Luke was a willing participant. But I say that knowing the entirety of Noah's douchey history, including the way he punched Reid without any provocation. So, yeah, I agree that Noah punching Brian was douchey, but I didn't think of it as something douchey he did to Luke... but I think your comments might have convinced me that it was, because it really was all about wanting to control Luke's behavior and keep him in line.
But all that said, just like most of the other douchey moments in Noah's history, if that had been his ONLY douchey behavior, or if there had just been a few other instances of douchey behavior, I wouldn't have a huge problem with it. I mean, I'd think it was wrong, in the same way I think Luke stealing a student election was wrong, but I wouldn't hate him for it or anything if that had been one of the few times Noah had acted like a complete douche.
I know Noah thought Brian kissed Luke but even if he thought that was the case and that the kiss was unwelcome ... I'm sorry, a kiss does not qualify as as physical violence
I totally disagree with that part. Kissing someone against their will is TOTALLY a form of violence... it's not rape or anything like that, but it is absolutely on the continuum of behavior that leads to rape.
So, because of that, IF Noah truly believed that Brian was the one kissing Luke, and that it was against Luke's will, and that it was the third or fourth time it had happened, I would have exactly zero problem with Noah decking Brian for it. In fact, I would applaud it.
But that's a lot of "ifs" and I don't actually believe any of them are true. I think you're probably right in the comment you made below about how Noah would have punched Brian whether he believed Luke was a willing participant in the kiss or not, and that he might have punched him harder if he thought Luke was a willing participant. But I say that knowing the entirety of Noah's douchey history, including the way he punched Reid without any provocation. So, yeah, I agree that Noah punching Brian was douchey, but I didn't think of it as something douchey he did to Luke... but I think your comments might have convinced me that it was, because it really was all about wanting to control Luke's behavior and keep him in line.
But all that said, just like most of the other douchey moments in Noah's history, if that had been his ONLY douchey behavior, or if there had just been a few other instances of douchey behavior, I wouldn't have a huge problem with it. I mean, I'd think it was wrong, in the same way I think Luke stealing a student election was wrong, but I wouldn't hate him for it or anything if that had been one of the few times Noah had acted like a complete douche.
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