DPP: Beginnings vs. Endings

Nov 17, 2011 07:21

This is pretty simple…  (and totally stolen from kag523's LAD post the other day.  Thanks.)

How do Kara, Lee and they’re relationship evole over the course of the journey to Earth?


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scifishipper November 17 2011, 18:02:47 UTC
Awww. Their little baby faces! A couple of words come to mind about their journey: growth, maturity, trust... All qualities that could have allowed them to be together if TPTB had allowed it. They were ready. :)

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kdbleu November 17 2011, 18:07:52 UTC
They were so ready to be together. They even look grown-up and ready to make mature decisions. Stupid TPTB. grrr.

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workerbee73 November 17 2011, 20:14:47 UTC
I KNOW!!!!! Tara's Islanded post from earlier today (lovely though it was) kind of brought the rage all back, so I'm afraid I can't add anything substantive to the convo except to say that I want to smash my Roomba and go out of my way to hit pigeons with my car.

:-/

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kdbleu November 17 2011, 21:08:25 UTC
Those caps kind of make me cry. So lovely and honest. They had come so far. :(

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sugarhaven November 17 2011, 18:17:58 UTC
They both matured tremendously as individuals but I think that their feelings haven't changed that much, other than in intensity. Unlike with most fictional couple, we didn't see the becoming friends or falling in love phase. It was all already there right from the brig scene. They were best friends, they wanted each other, they loved each other, they trusted each other and relied on each other from start till finish.

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kdbleu November 17 2011, 18:22:13 UTC
Unlike with most fictional couple, we didn't see the becoming friends or falling in love phase. It was all already there right from the brig scene.

This is so true and something I must admit I never really thought about. I love being dropped into the middle of things about figuring things out from there.

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winegums November 17 2011, 19:47:01 UTC
Exactly. What Daybreak showed us was that they had that snap of connection from the moment they first laid eyes on each other, and it just never went away no matter how much they tried.

It's after that first meeting that they really become everything else to each other - best friends, colleagues, almost family, moral support, all the things that make their relationship even more of an amazing and complex thing than it already was.

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wicked_sassy November 17 2011, 23:13:50 UTC
I think they fell in love at the moment that Lee opened the door to Kara's apartment. After that is when we see their evolution and maturity as Starbuck and Apollo; they became the two halves of the universe's fiercest coin, and they went through a lot together--except, ultimately, how to be together and make it work.

Kara learned how to love herself because Zak, Lee, and Sam loved her; Lee learned how to let go and be free because he loved Kara.

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kdbleu November 17 2011, 23:43:33 UTC
Kara learned how to love herself because Zak, Lee, and Sam loved her; Lee learned how to let go and be free because he loved Kara.

This is such a lovely thought. :)

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winegums November 18 2011, 08:22:01 UTC
I want to hug this comment, because all of it is just that lovely.

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ddt73 November 17 2011, 23:52:54 UTC
I agree as many have said they have that connection from the moment they met. The spark was there.

I think for a long time they didn't know what to do with the connection they had. First there was Zak, then after there was lots of guilt.

By the end of the journey, they had made peace with the past. Lee thinking he lost her, and Kara's return put it all into proper perspective. The past no longer mattered. They were critically important to each other.

Kara with all her confusion and frustration that was the one absolute constant. Lee was her constant.

Sadly by the end I think they were ready to be together, but then the poof ruined it. If not for the poof there would have been time to mourn the spouses who they both just recently lost. Lee had lost his spouses a few months before, and Kara had just said goodbye to Sam.

I think with no poof they could have slowly come together, and finally be together.

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workerbee73 November 17 2011, 23:57:34 UTC
Sadly by the end I think they were ready to be together, but then the poof ruined it. If not for the poof there would have been time to mourn the spouses who they both just recently lost. Lee had lost his spouses a few months before, and Kara had just said goodbye to Sam.

I think with no poof they could have slowly come together, and finally be together.

Amen to all of this.

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winegums November 18 2011, 08:34:58 UTC
And more than anything, the poof was pointless.

We already knew - because TPTB had already hammered home the point repeatedly - that Kara mk.II wasn't the girl who flew into the maelstrom, Revelations, SAGN and Islanded made that abundantly clear and executed it better too. Like kdbleu says, it was just about shock value and nothing else.

And yes, if their ending had just left both of them in the field, I could have accepted that - it's ambiguous enough for speculation about what happens between them afterward (though I might not have liked the resulting babyfic) but meh, it's apparently easier to make pilots the show's grand symbol of Screwed-Over Epic Love.

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workerbee73 November 18 2011, 13:15:19 UTC
Dude. Field would have been fine. Yay field.

But alas.

RAGE.

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luckyme040482 November 18 2011, 01:16:20 UTC
i'm so sad. :( GAH. workerbee: i am raging too. :-\

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workerbee73 November 18 2011, 13:19:44 UTC
I KNOW!!!!

It's like the Godfather--- just when I think I'm out THE RAGE PULLS ME BACK IN.

Sadness. But we shall persevere. We have the DPP and fic. Fic! Most happymaking. : )

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