Girls and Boys

Nov 16, 2010 17:16

Hey, all. Sorry this post is pretty late in the day - We had some connection issues at the house earlier :(

Today we're going to talk about Pilots and Gender Some time over a year ago was when I first became aware of this trend throughout different fandoms of genderbending characters, creating an AU in which one or more characters has ( Read more... )

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callmeonetrack November 17 2010, 02:43:19 UTC
This is an extremely interesting question but I am having a very hard time processing it because I cannot conceive of someone else playing Starbuck or Starbuck not being a woman. (I know, I know. Dirk Benedict. But that was an entirely different show from this one.)

One thing that's especially hard to imagine is a man carrying the kind of guilt that Kara has and exhibits in AOC/YCGHA. Can you picture a male starbuck telling a female Apollo that he failed her younger sister, his fiancee because he loved her too much and that got her killed? Or how about a male Starbuck confessing to Adama that he got his daughter killed and then breaking down in tears? I don't know... it's really hard to imagine.

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swamp_ariadne November 17 2010, 03:58:59 UTC
but that would be an emmy-award winning performance - the kind of actor that can be vulnerable and still be BAMF.

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callmeonetrack November 17 2010, 04:14:13 UTC
It would...but I don't know that many shows would write it that way. I guess despite the gender switcharoo, her behavior is maybe still female-coded? I dunno.

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callmeonetrack November 17 2010, 04:19:40 UTC
Although on second thought, it's kind of annoying to think that would be viewed as emmy-winning for a man but it wasn't enough to get Katee an emmy? Or even a nod?

IDK...

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swamp_ariadne November 17 2010, 06:28:24 UTC
you're right. it is kind of annoying, but the reality i guess is that because women are still "expected" to be better at emotional vulnerability that's what we get. books like women are from venus and men are from mars wouldn't sell if people still don't live the gender stereotypes. and we're just talking about heterosexual relationships here... omg gender politics is a headache.

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callmeonetrack November 17 2010, 04:50:35 UTC
I'm so sick of the male teacher-female student relationships that are EVERYWHERE on TV right now.

But for Bill and Starbuck, the thing that would still work is Starbuck being the son he never had. I could also see a strained relationship btw Bill and Leah (hee)with the whole struggle of not understanding each other b/c different personality type or whatever.

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