hI don't have an explanation for extreme changes of intent among authors or screenwriters these days. There seems to be, in my opinion, a considerable lack of self control among writers today. They seem to want to get to the surprise punch line or surprise twist (a la "The Sixth Sense") then to be actually interested in creating a viable story. We are living in an M.Knight Shyamalan world of "OMG, take a look at this!" storytelling. It's frustrating because many are missing the gold of the real story under their feet.I think the joke about the Sixth Sense is that the surprise isn't actually very masterful and surprising - the first thought I had when I read that it's about Bruce Willis coaching a boy who talks to the dead and that there is a surprise twist, was "Bruce is dead, too." It's really that predictable. What is actually the good part about the Sixth Sense (and I have never actually seen more than twenty minutes of it) is that the story until that reveal is told in a manner that obscures that twist. The Sixth Sense wasn't a
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Maybe the truth is that it's not difficult to be a fan, but rather that it is difficult to stop being one.
This is so true. It's kind of how I feel with a lot of things in the HP fandom. My Cs of HP fandom are just more appealing to me than the intended Bs. If the Bs were plausibly rendered, I would probably be more open to them. And it's hard to really just let go of those Cs only because creator says so.
Sure, creator has the right to do what she wants with her story, but she doesn't dictate to me what I can and can't like. And when she tries, well, that's when my interest is lost big time.
I'm not saying you are wrong, because you are, 100%, but could this be because you read HP as a drama when it really isn't? I've read the books as mysteries from the very beginning, was never interested in ships, or that love crap, but focused on who is HBP or now RAB, etc... And i must say i'm satisfied with the books, because i read them that way. I guess it has something to do with what you focus on, and i'm not sure it's entirely JKR's fault. She said it herself, in her last interview, that in the type of story she's writing, romance is never a priority unless it helps uncover other important mysteries. But then there is this huge fandom making a big deal of Harry-Hermione-Ron triangle, which makes all of us interested, to some level. Though i accept JKR herself isn't very aware of this either, no matter what she says, whether it be about romance, free will or love. But maybe we shouldn't put all the blame on JKR here.
The book is about heroes, good guys who are sadistic and cruel and wanton and just a tiny step above the very things they are fighting. And they are big damn, great fucking heroes, good people, because Ms. Rowling says so.
Meanwhile at Camp "Evol Death Eaters Inc.", babies are born with a big 666 tattooed on their foreheads. Hooray for humanity and lovely notion that evil is genetic. Because that never, ever, ever caused any kind of harm to anyone, really.
Fuck romance, fuck mystery, because this is what truly pisses me off. The books are not well-written enough, not clever enough, not anything enough to justify so repugnant heroes and fucked-up ethics.
After several weeks of reflection on the subject. I am beginning to suspect that Rowling is laying another trail of gunpowder to blow us all up with
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No, you're wrong, 100% (assuming there has to be right and wrong--no-one is obliged to love a book), and why do people always assume that if you hated HBP it has to be about the romance?
I don't like Ron/Hermione, but that is not what killed HBP--what killed HBP is the genetic evil subplot.
Anyhow, who other than JKR should we blame, if the book is no good? Kia didn't write it and neither did I.
Not so thrilled with Duncan/Veronica here, either. But given the fact that Duncan did not put the roofies in Veronica's drink...?
I don't know if I can consider him a rapist, it depends upon how obviously fucked up Veronica was--the problem with roofies and drugs like that is that you can't always tell if someone's actually incapacitated, or just having a REALLY good time.
I mean, I don't consider every man that I have slept with when I was tipsy a rapist--so did she look like she was tipsy and horny, or was she unconscious? I gotta know before I say 'Duncan is a rapist' because the sad thing about this kind of situation is that a guy can have every reason to believe the sex is consensual and it totally isn't.
(Sorry, something a lot like this happened to one of my friends...)
I think the way this episode was handled was problematic. Everyone presented their version of the truth and their version always white-washed them to some degree. That bit of meta simply made Duncan's testimony a little less reliable and while when in doubt you are supposed to assume innocence, in this case even the tiniest smigden of doubt makes it very hard to accept Duncan/Veronica for me. It's creeping me out.
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This is so true.
It's kind of how I feel with a lot of things in the HP fandom. My Cs of HP fandom are just more appealing to me than the intended Bs. If the Bs were plausibly rendered, I would probably be more open to them. And it's hard to really just let go of those Cs only because creator says so.
Sure, creator has the right to do what she wants with her story, but she doesn't dictate to me what I can and can't like. And when she tries, well, that's when my interest is lost big time.
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*stands up and claps vigorously*
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I guess it has something to do with what you focus on, and i'm not sure it's entirely JKR's fault. She said it herself, in her last interview, that in the type of story she's writing, romance is never a priority unless it helps uncover other important mysteries. But then there is this huge fandom making a big deal of Harry-Hermione-Ron triangle, which makes all of us interested, to some level.
Though i accept JKR herself isn't very aware of this either, no matter what she says, whether it be about romance, free will or love. But maybe we shouldn't put all the blame on JKR here.
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Meanwhile at Camp "Evol Death Eaters Inc.", babies are born with a big 666 tattooed on their foreheads. Hooray for humanity and lovely notion that evil is genetic. Because that never, ever, ever caused any kind of harm to anyone, really.
Fuck romance, fuck mystery, because this is what truly pisses me off. The books are not well-written enough, not clever enough, not anything enough to justify so repugnant heroes and fucked-up ethics.
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I don't like Ron/Hermione, but that is not what killed HBP--what killed HBP is the genetic evil subplot.
Anyhow, who other than JKR should we blame, if the book is no good? Kia didn't write it and neither did I.
Rowling is self-contradictory and a wanker.
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I don't know if I can consider him a rapist, it depends upon how obviously fucked up Veronica was--the problem with roofies and drugs like that is that you can't always tell if someone's actually incapacitated, or just having a REALLY good time.
I mean, I don't consider every man that I have slept with when I was tipsy a rapist--so did she look like she was tipsy and horny, or was she unconscious? I gotta know before I say 'Duncan is a rapist' because the sad thing about this kind of situation is that a guy can have every reason to believe the sex is consensual and it totally isn't.
(Sorry, something a lot like this happened to one of my friends...)
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