Dying without Silicones

Jun 29, 2011 15:24

Hi. My name is Cthulhu Hungers, and I...am an addict. It's been 2 weeks since my last 'cone...

Anyway, there's been a couple of questions here on no-poo about hair dye, and whether or not you can dye and still be no-poo but most people here seem to be undyed. I dyed my hair Sunday night and wanted to share the method i worked out to dye and ( Read more... )

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cthulhu_hungers June 30 2011, 06:16:14 UTC
yeah, the red in mine fades after about 2 weeks, it sucks. hopefully the vinegar rince will prevent that. A lot of people in this comm seem to have the same issue you had with Dr. bronners, that it's too drying on their hair and too alkaline and if you need to use it it needs to be very dilute (i don't use a lot, sometimes I dilute, sometimes I don't)

I don't understand how dr. bronners can be alkaline. I won't get into the chemistry but all the ingredients are slightly acidic in nature, not alkaline. Citric acid is an ingredient and is very strong and rough- that might be what's causing problems for people in the community. Citric acid is used in chemical peels and only a 10% solution of it will remove rust from a surface without scrubbing. But I can't find a version that doesn't use citric acid though (they might be using it as a preservative, or an antiseptic)

I use the tea-tree oil liquid kind on my body and hair, and it doesn't dry either out. but I do seem to be the exception. As for the olive oil, all i can say is that it worked for me, and it should be inert and non-reactive (the thing about conditioner is that it does have some cleaning compounds- they are just weaker and need to sit on hair longer to work. that's the concept behind conditioner only washes. A more thorough explanation is here- http://archive.longhaircommunity.com/archive/index.php/t-9367.html).

I'd look under the olive oil treatment tag, for other people who've used it. the key is to use a little little little- I have a tiny bottle and use only 6 pumps to cover all my hair. too much and you'll look oily, and it's very hard to get out olive oil without shampoo.

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secret_gyoza June 30 2011, 20:11:47 UTC
in my experience and from what my hair stylist of a million years has told me people who dye red should NEVER use hair products w tea tree in it bc it will strip out the color.

I don't really know if the rules change with the no poo life but I'm gonna stick w that one bc my I didn't switch my poo to a tea tree free (and sulfate free as it happened) variety until my 2nd dye job and the first one is the only one that lasted a ridiculously short time.

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cthulhu_hungers June 30 2011, 22:01:47 UTC
huh. I might have to get the original dr. bronners for hair and use tea tree on my body- essential oils in general are very reactive, that may be what's stripping the red dye out. That's the reason they come in dark glass bottles. They're know to just completely destroy plastics- I'll been doing OCM with olive oil and tea tree and I have this little soft plastic scrub brush from my last cleaner I've been using to massage the oil in. One time I put the tea tree oil directly on the scrub brush and it just destroyed some of the little tiny bristles on it. since then i mix the oils (and use less TTO), put it on my face, and then use the brush.

All the people here seem to have their own stylists. I feel kinda weird that I don't.

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secret_gyoza June 30 2011, 22:16:54 UTC
Yeah TTO is great on my skin but I don't use it in my hair anymore.

And don't feel weird, this woman was my neighbor when I was in high school and I used to get my hair cut in her basement. She just does the best job cutting my hair bc my hair is all particular and stuff. Like its fine, so fine that a bit of the wrong product or too much product makes it flat and straight but left to its own devices its wavy. The weight of my hair straightens it too, and flattens it so layers cut wrong make the top poof up and the bottm hang limp. Then there is my oily frizz... and her cuts grow in nicer than they start. I didn't cut my hair for 7 months and every month people asked me if I had a new haircut bc it looked different and nice. But now I'm not living close to where she works so I am going to try and find someone who can deal with my hair's split personality. I'm also hoping that going no poo helps as well.

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