navigation strip

[burr86]

I know a lot of the people here don't like the navigation strip and have specifically, consciously chosen not to enable it. We're going to be turning it on retroactively for users who (a) joined before it was on by default, (b) don't have either of the options set, (c) haven't turned off the nav strip cprod

Comments

[ex_shattered767]

I think you've confused "consciously chosen not to enable it" with "consciously chosen to create a user stylesheet and disable it as much as possible". ;)

I really don't know what to say. It's seems like it's always opt out, opt out, opt out.

Warning: bad pun

[ex_uniquewo]

I think they want us to spell it out.

XD

And I think that the problem comes from the fact that some of us 'old' users didn't have to opt out. It was an opt in for once. Or am I wrong? Makes you wonder about upcoming changes though. Will they be turned on by default? The Profile page seems to be a given - if users even get an opt out of that - but I wonder about the new Navigation Scheme, the S+ level for communities (I really doubt they'd do that but never say never, right?) and...what else? ESN. Will we get default subscriptions?

I mean turning these things on is the easiest way to advertise them after all.

Re: Warning: bad pun

[ex_shattered767]

And forcing them onto users is the easiest way to make them popular features.

Re: Warning: bad pun

[tiferet]

This logic so pisses me off.

[matgb]

I opted in, actually to find out what it looked like and so that daweaver could figure out how to block it. I liked it a bit, so kept it as a trial. Now, I resent when it isn't there.

I'd like to be able to view it for all journals, even those that have switched it off, but I'm happier with the switch on/off options.

As the man says, unfortunate that it didn't have an on/off/not stated set of toggles, I know a lot of lower end users don't ever notice new things (or even existing things, I still know people who are convinced filtered friends views are paid only, etc).

Big bonus for me is knowing I'm logged in on my friends page, it's what I have bookmarked, I'm logged in permanently on 3 machines, when they went throught he whole log everyone out every few hours thing during the bantown thing I couldn't keep track, now I can easily.

YMMV, but users should make a conscious choice. Hope they do that from now on.

[ex_shattered767]

"Big bonus for me is knowing I'm logged in on my friends page, it's what I have bookmarked, I'm logged in permanently on 3 machines, when they went throught he whole log everyone out every few hours thing during the bantown thing I couldn't keep track, now I can easily."

I don't know about you, but LJ still can't keep me logged in. The LJlogin extension for Firefox takes care of that nice and easy, shows me who I'm logged in as without even having to scroll the page to find the nav strip, and it doesn't take up extra space in my window.

The nav strip has never done it for me; it's full of things I've already built into my layout or I've found better solutions for, and ontop of that I've always seen it as a rip off of Blogger's toolbar.

[matgb]

I haven't had a problem with being logged in for a bit, but sometimes there's a clean up at work, etc. Same applies for the cellphone browsing (Opera Mini is so cool), my phone isn't technically up to spec, so it has a few memory problems. Haven't actually tried LJlogin, until recently, only had this account, and have only used matbowles to mess around with adverts.

Next time I redo my layout and links list, I'll be taking out all the stuff now in the nav strip, I had multiple filters as links, a bit pointless really. Besides, I like Bloggers toolbar, I've no problem with people going "that's a good idea", and it's only a few pixels at the top. I'd really hate it if it was framed and static like some users seem to want, but as is, it's cool.

Like I said, choice is good. Mostly. Some people vote Bush/Blair ;-(

[ex_shattered767]

I get randomly logged out with no known cause, at least not that I can find by looking for codepushes going live or site downtimes.

For me, my filters work, because I don't want customers_suck mixed in when I'm trying to check everything_lj.

But to each his own. I'm just a little tird of the opt-out vs. opt-in.

[burr86]

I was waiting for the Blogger toolbar comment. ;) Whether or not it's mimicked after that, I don't know, but does it really bother you that much that there's a resemblance to another service?

[ex_shattered767]

It doesn't bother me, per se, as much as it makes me think "gee, I really wish LJ would come up with original features". As I'm sure you've seen, nearly every new feature or change that comes out results in some users saying "Hey guys, stop trying to be like GJ/MySpace/whatever."

[ex_uniquewo]

"I'd like to be able to view it for all journals, even those that have switched it off, but I'm happier with the switch on/off options."

Doesn't "Always see the navigation strip when you view any journal or community" work for you or did you mean people who have blocked it via CSS in their layout (says the crazy girl)?

[matgb]

I have that switched on, but it only seems to appear on users that have enabled it? I may be missing something, but I rarely see it it seems :-(

I doubt that my friends have blocked it using CSS, they think that I'm the tech-savvy one for the most part...

[ex_uniquewo]

Weird. You should see it all the time. Okay... let's deal with the basics. Are you always logged in when you see other people's pages?

[tiferet]

You can view it everywhere, just turn it on.

What I find obnoxious is when people tell LJ to make me look at it when I said I didn't want to!