Modern-Day Pharisees

Jun 25, 2007 20:43

So, I woke up this morning to the realization that I've been a Protestant Christian (as opposed to the Catholic Christianity with which I was raised) for almost exactly four years now ( Read more... )

ponderings, that church what i hate, ranting about my fellow christians, christianity

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nightwind69 June 26 2007, 04:13:57 UTC
Yes, the judgmental folks seem to be singularly fixated on the OT, indeed. But they do it in a hypocritical sort of way. Like, they'll fixate on the strictures against homosexuality, but they'll get a divorce or lie or do any number of things that God similarly forbids. Can't have your cake and eat it too, people... I wholeheartedly believe that many of these people have never actually read the Bible for themselves; they're just parroting the standard "sound bites" that they believe gives them the right to judge other people or that, worse, as "good Christians" that they should denounce those things and the people who embrace them. Not their place.

As for the special thing...Worded it badly. My meaning was that it doesn't make us special to any other human being. A non-Christian probably could care less whether or not I've accepted Jesus, and the fact that I have doesn't make me special in that person's eyes. In fact, it might just make me contemptible, you know? Also, it doesn't make us special in the sense of being able to dictate to other people on spiritual/moral matters.

And yep, witnessing by example is, I think, the way to go. The owner of my company is astounded that I don't let what he sees as disasters bother me. He asked me how I manage to do that once, how I can stay "supernaturally calm," as he put it. I said, in short, "The Lord." Being an eclectic Buddhist/Taoist/Eastern MishMash who vehemently rejects Christ, he didn't know quite what to make of that, but he's been subtly asking questions ever since. I don't know if that's a good thing or not... :)

Ahhhh, the parables. In the book I read, Mr. Fischer likened the Pharisees to the first workers in the vineyard, all indignant because people got "paid" the same amount for less "work." Meaning that the Pharisees were indignant because Jesus offered salvation to be people who, they felt, didn't deserve it. Judgmental Christians are like that, too. The can't stand it that "unholy" people can get into heaven as easily as they, in their "righteousness," can.

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rusti_knight June 26 2007, 04:40:58 UTC
Oh, I definitely agree that we've no right to dictate spiritual or moral matters to people. I swear, drink from time to time, and I've been known to be quite lazy and terribly cynical. What right to I have to tell someone else how to behave? ;P

And yes, being Saved very well could make me quite contemptible to some folks.

Nice comeback to your bossman. ;) And the Judgmental ones forget that their passage into heaven was just as 'free' as ours, all we had to do was accept it. It wasn't anything that anyone had to pay for. It doesn't mean that we can just do whatever the hell we want, we still have a path to try to follow, but we're all going to fall from time to time, and they're deluding themselves if they think they're above that. I'll have to file that thought away for the next one that approaches me...

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drharper June 26 2007, 12:06:36 UTC
I'm so glad I was able to introduce you to the Great Fisch. :)

As for your boss...I'd say it's a very good thing. You personally may never see the end result, but you've done EXACTLY what you need to with your "witness" (And I'm beginning to want to find another word to use there. It's been so degraded.)

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Presented for your approval... drharper June 26 2007, 13:55:45 UTC
After reading this, I went poking around on John Fischer's website and found this little gem.

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nightwind69 June 26 2007, 16:43:58 UTC
The word "witness" in that context has acquired some very negative connotations, indeed. Most people think of the JWs, if nothing else. (And don't get me started on them.... ;) ). That and some folks seem to think that witnessing is somehow synonymous with sermonizing. *sigh* While we're at it, the word "Christian" has some serious negative connotations now, too. People think "Falwell" or "Phelps" or some other extreme wacko. Sad. :)

And yes, I thank you for the Fisch education. :) I'm loving this guy more and more. Haven't really gotten around to going through his website, but I will. Need to add it to my links here, since I tend to use those to navigate around almost more than my bookmarks... It's very refreshing to find a higher-profile Christian who tells the truth instead of trying to be someone or something that he isn't just to impress/condemn the heathens. *rolls eyes*

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