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nightwind69

Crybaby whining? You decide...

May 10, 2007 12:17

I dunno...I've been thinking about the issue a lot this last week or so and...I just feel like I don't really belong in Transformers fandom anymore. I seem to see things totally differently than everyone else seems to see them these days, which is likely my own fault because I've made it all too much my own, in a sense. The end result is that there ( Read more... )

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rusti_knight May 10 2007, 18:54:24 UTC

I haven't paid much attention to any incarnation past G1 myself, to be honest. I watched a few eps of RiD and Armada, but that was basically it. Never got into Beast Wars or anything like that.

You probably couldn't, however, accuse me of being all that involved in TransFandom. Knight Rider is my main thing, and sadly, I don't have the time to write for *it* like I used to.

Sometimes it helps to take a step back and take a deep breath and figure out exactly what's going on.

nightwind69 May 10 2007, 19:40:01 UTC

I went through all this once before, with Star Trek fandom; you'd think I'd be used to it by now, that I'd know what to do when I get that "Why the heck am I here in this fandom?" feeling. :) And honestly, my TF fandom has always been one that comes and goes, that cyclically waxes and wanes. So maybe it's just in one of those "waning" phases at the moment, and I'll feel very differently next month or six months from now. Who knows? For now, though...Yeah, I'm gonna step back a bit, see how it goes.

Maybe I'll dabble in Knight Rider a bit in the meantime... ;)

rusti_knight May 10 2007, 19:55:59 UTC

It's a thought. ;)

nightwind69 May 10 2007, 20:00:09 UTC

It is. :) The only thing that holds me back is that I'm not at all fond of Michael. And he's rather...er, integral, you know?

rusti_knight May 10 2007, 20:46:39 UTC

I suppose. I write for Team Knight Rider almost exclusively, so the one I tend to write most, aside from my OC, Rusti is Attack Beast the F-150. ;)

nightwind69 May 10 2007, 21:44:18 UTC

Heh. I never watched Team Knight Rider, so if I were to suddenly switch fandoms, I'd be in exactly the same boat as I am with Transformers. ;) Only worse, really, given my anti-Michaelness. :)

rusti_knight May 10 2007, 21:57:58 UTC

So what exactly do you have against White People 'Fros anyway? ;)

nightwind69 May 12 2007, 15:23:12 UTC

Heh. :)

You know what Frosty and I call Michael? "Tweety Bird." Seriously, he gets this look on his face sometimes where he looks just like Tweety Bird, long eyelashes and all.

I dunno...His characterization -- or lack thereof -- never really grabbed me. I think the writers just didn't "go deep" enough to make me interested in him. Maybe that was never their intention, though. And, from a fanfic point of view, I'm not interested enough in him to focus on him.

Kitt, however, grabbed me right away. *wubs*

rusti_knight May 12 2007, 16:17:26 UTC

*dies* Tweety bird? I always thought he just looked like a string bean.

I like Kitt, to a certain extent, but my favorite from the original series always has been and always will be Karr. As a fic writer, there's so much left unsaid there there's tons to explore.

nightwind69 May 15 2007, 14:54:10 UTC

I can definitely see the appeal of Karr, yes. All dark with Major Issues and stuff. Usually, I love dark with issues. But, in this case, I just like Kitt more. He's all fluffy and cute and innocent. *heart* Makes me just want to hug the stuffing out of him. :D

It is highly amusing to me, however, that Karr's original voice is that of Optimus Prime's, though. I love watching that episode and imagining Op saying some of the stuff that Karr says... *dies*

rusti_knight May 15 2007, 16:54:59 UTC

If you watched Trust Doesn't Rust and then an episode of G1 right together, Cullen has a very obvious difference going, but yes, hearing Prime tell somebody that he has no eggs, perhaps he can be directed to a chicken, would have me rolling.

rusti_knight May 15 2007, 16:58:01 UTC

Um, yeah, that would've been me...

nightwind69 May 15 2007, 19:45:40 UTC

The one that really gets me rolling is the one that goes something like, "Perhaps you wish to reproduce?" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

*ahem*

Anyway, I love Karr in "Trust Doesn't Rust." He's evil but he's sore of an evil innocent, you know? Bad and totally self-absorbed, but clueless, and it's really the clueless part that's more dangerous than the other. In his other appearance, he's all smarmy and manipulative, even the voice. Like he's a shoulder devil or something. It's not a logical progression for the character, in my mind. I sort of wish they hadn't brought him back, but I guess it was inevitable...

rusti_knight May 15 2007, 20:27:38 UTC

Well, here's my take, if you care to know.

In TDR, he could've gone either way. He was still a very blank slate, and a bit like a half-tamed wild animal that got picked up by the wrong trainers. Instead of being taught what he should've learned by the right people, that blank slate got graffiti scrawled all over it, and the ones he should've been trusting drove him over the edge of a cliff.

Spend a couple of years alone and buried under a pile of sand, and you start to go sour. You turn into this thing that manipulates others out of pure defense before they manipulate *you*, and you're bent on repaying what you think you owe to the pair who put you in that spot in the first place.

Karr, to me, is sort of a tragic character, in that they gave up on him too fast and just shove him off to one side and forgot about him, and then drove him crazy.

I've got a fic going that I probably ought to finish that goes from beginning to, I think the end of KvK, all from Karr's point of view. Most may not agree with my opinion, but I enjoy it.

nightwind69 May 17 2007, 21:04:34 UTC

Hmmmm, that's an interesting thought. It makes sense if you see Karr as being conscious the whole time between TDR and KvK. I tend to think that he wasn't, that he was in, to use the computer term not the animal term, hibernation. Had enough power to keep him alive, but not enough to be conscious. If that weren't the case, then yes, your interpretation makes sense. I just hadn't thought of it that way before.

I'd like to see that Karr fic. :) My ideas are flexible -- I mean, I kill off main characters :) -- so I'd like to see what you've come up with....

rusti_knight May 18 2007, 00:34:45 UTC

That means I'll have to go dig what I have off my PC and transfer it to my Mac so I can play with it. The first 8 pages or so are posted as Part 1 on my fanfic site: www.phosphor-essence.com under the TKR link, down at the bottom of the page.

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